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| Texas crowd kills passenger riding in vehicle that struck child during Juneteenth celebration | |
| 2007-06-21 | |
| AUSTIN, Texas — A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday. Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said. The Austin Police Department identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40. The child was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries. Police spokeswoman Toni Chovonetz said she had no further information, including how many people were involved. The driver was able to get away and is cooperating with investigators, police said. Juneteenth marks the day Gen. Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston in 1865 to share news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves two years earlier on Jan. 1, 1863. Under other circumstances, this would be called a "lynching."
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| Posted by:Seafarious |
| #35 Find your old buddy Emo8872? Like old times ain't it? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2007-06-21 23:57 |
| #34 Salmon? LOL |
| Posted by: Icerigger 2007-06-21 23:37 |
| #33 And why did you ever think you could have a forum that tolerated bigotry towards Arabs to the extent that it has, and not end up becoming a place where other sorts of racial bigotries also hang out to have the occasional smoke? Tsk tsk, Aris. You can't just waltz in here like this and talk sense. You'll make their heads explode! Like so many things worth having, Rantburg is a privilege, not a right. It's also out in the public domain. So if Rantburg says something stupid, it's fair game to pile on the scorn. Complaining about that, or reminding others that this is a privately-owned website is rather weak. Grow up. |
| Posted by: 8872 2007-06-21 22:48 |
| #32 Quite a number of us here at Rantburg descend from the sub-Saharan region of the planet. (Not me, that I'm aware of, but a good many others.) It's not capriciousness or a sudden attack of PC-itis to refuse to insult our own. Nor is it ever inappropriate to demand good manners from the posters. Finally, the Rantburg moderators are demigods acting in accordance with the site-owner's will. You don't like it? Leave. Like so many things worth having, Rantburg is a privilege, not a right. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-06-21 20:47 |
| #31 "Subtext: Blacks v Hispanics" Yep, that's the one that the oh-so-politically-correct have trouble handling, or even comprehending. They also choke on "Blacks v Korean" too. But as the mother of a friend of mine used to say (and imagine this in a heavy, southern and black drawl) "Sugar, they is black, and they is white... and then they is trash!" |
| Posted by: Sgt. Mom 2007-06-21 20:14 |
| #30 Subtext: Blacks v Hispanics |
| Posted by: McZoid 2007-06-21 18:31 |
| #29 Well, my momma told me the races on her side of the family are English, Italian, and Irish. And, and, and, all the people on my father's side are jack-asses. |
| Posted by: Mixed Up 2007-06-21 17:31 |
| #28 I think for most of us, this is not a matter of 'race' or color. To me, there's one race, humans. Either you are one or you're not. Which it is depends on how you act. I wouldn't care what color skin the people who commit acts like these have, as long as they're punished. If you commit an act of evil, then you deserve punishment. There are no excuses for what they did. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2007-06-21 17:07 |
| #27 Then, when the moderator was called on their rather capricious moderating decision, a moderator applied that adorably childish picture of the black officer. Actually, he's Indian. Go rent Super Troopers. |
| Posted by: spiffo 2007-06-21 16:55 |
| #26 I was following this thread this morning when N. Law, (probably not his/her real name) posted the redacted comment. It was quite benign, and no racial slurs were used. I suspect that the "Pink" moderator bunched his shorts over the use of the Spanish word for black, and N. Law's comment regarding the lack of ethnic tolerance displayed by Americans of African ancestry. All in all, quite tame compared to some of the other stuff that is allowed to fly around here. Then, when the moderator was called on their rather capricious moderating decision, a moderator applied that adorably childish picture of the black officer. Surprising, but not too much, as some of the moderators here display an astonishing lack of suitability for their role. Just my opinion. Disclaimer: I do not know N. Law.
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| Posted by: Percy Slavith1117 2007-06-21 16:15 |
| #25 I am also puzzled by the sudden PC syndrome going on here. Certainly I expect it from the mainstream media, who have so far failed to give any description of these lowlife criminals. Day in, day out, its always the same thing about the murderous criminal welfare dependent thugs "paleos" in the Middle East, but G*D forbid we dare mention it in any other context. |
| Posted by: Gerthudion Elmolusing8348 2007-06-21 14:31 |
| #24 with Aris Katsaris it's all Hatred of America-ns unless they're Dhimmi or bow to EU-Yourpeans.. |
| Posted by: RD 2007-06-21 13:03 |
| #23 Juneteenth 2007 In Milwaukee, crowds at the downtown festivities attacked cars. One driver was pulled from his vehicle and severely beaten before police arrived. A woman was also arrested during the festivities for assaulting a police officer. In Syracuse, New York, several fights broke out amongst youths at the event and two people were stabbed. This lead to police shutting down the event early. AUSTIN, Texas — A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday. Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him... The above are not opinions. They are major news events. Oh, and by the way Aris Katsaris, you need to distinguish between discussions of mobs of Arabs, Caucasions, etc., etc., vs mobs of criminals. At this time our biggest threat of criminal gangs wreaking havoc are out of the Middle East. So either as an Arab or as a Juneteenth African American organizer get your criminal element under control, or we will. |
| Posted by: Ulavirt 2007-06-21 12:59 |
| #22 Forgive us Aris. Let us learn from our Greek betters who have have killed wholesale by muslims, Turks, Arabs, Germans, Persians, Romans. To those who have slaughtered Greeks and I have failed to mention, apologies. |
| Posted by: ed 2007-06-21 12:59 |
| #21 Well...look who's shown up to cast the first stone. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2007-06-21 12:49 |
| #20 pot shots at an entire race of people won't be tolerated. Unless they are Arabs. Seriously man, is this the first time you see pot shots at an "entire race of people" in this forum? Where have you been the last several years? And why did you ever think you could have a forum that tolerated bigotry towards Arabs to the extent that it has, and not end up becoming a place where other sorts of racial bigotries also hang out to have the occasional smoke?
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| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2007-06-21 12:39 |
| #19 You have to admit, itÂ’s ironic that there is an increased amount of victims of violence that occur on a day that recognizes past victims of violence. Moreover, they are primarily perpetrated by those that share that legacy. |
| Posted by: DepotGuy 2007-06-21 12:29 |
| #18 Enough. It's sad, embarrassing and wrong that a crowd killed a man. The perpetrators need to be brought to justice, and the man's family needs solace and comfort. This whole thread is getting ugly, and we mods (and we've been talking this morning) don't like it. If the ugliness continues we're going to delete the whole post and all comments. Whatever your opinion of Juneteenth, pot shots at an entire race of people won't be tolerated. AoS |
| Posted by: Steve White 2007-06-21 11:49 |
| #17 welcome to TEXAS, the Palistine of the USA |
| Posted by: Elmereper B. Hayes9247 2007-06-21 10:53 |
| #16 Why are they having riots over it in Milwaukee and Syracuse? "...it has increasingly become a day when a lot of Blacks use slavery as an excuse to commit violence." Any questions, TU? |
| Posted by: Natural Law 2007-06-21 10:06 |
| #15 So it's a big deal in Texas. Fine. Celebrate it in in Texas. Why are they having riots over it in Milwaukee and Syracuse? You think poor Pat Kasthurirangaian had any clue what the hell was going on when he drove up on it in Milwaukee and got his head kicked in? I know I wouldn't, because I've never heard of the froiggin thing. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2007-06-21 09:53 |
| #14 Juneteenth is a perfectly fine celebration of the arrival of the news that the enslaved population of the United States had been declared free by Abraham Lincoln. That is very true, however, it has increasingly become a day when a lot of Blacks use slavery as an excuse to commit violence. Juneteenth violence happens a LOT more than what you hear about in the media. As someone that lives in Texas and has seen the violence grow over the decades as a result of PC tolerance, I have about had my fill of scofflaw behavior excused on the basis of race. There is a backlash coming, and it will not be pretty. I am sorry (and more than a little angry) that this man was killed by a mob, but that is no excuse to denigrate the observance of such an auspicious day. Denigration? That's rich. The only parties denigrating this "auspicious" day, are the bad actors among the celebrants. Like spoiled children, any excuse to tear something up. |
| Posted by: Natural Law 2007-06-21 09:46 |
| #13 The southern tip of Texas was sort of forgotten by the North. After awhile it was along the lines of "who is occupying the tip?", "Oh, no! We forgot. Better go free those slaves." So that made Juneteenth .. A unique celebration that reminds one of bureaucratic failure too. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2007-06-21 09:36 |
| #12 Please, gentlemen. Juneteenth is a perfectly fine celebration of the arrival of the news that the enslaved population of the United States had been declared free by Abraham Lincoln. I am sorry (and more than a little angry) that this man was killed by a mob, but that is no excuse to denigrate the observance of such an auspicious day. |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2007-06-21 09:22 |
| #11 What's the matter AoS, was it the use of the word "negro" that twisted your nickers? Or the statement of the obvious, that there is a great deal of racism and bigotry prevalent in the black community? You redact my plainly stated comment, but you let the borderline stuff that follows stand? Idiot. |
| Posted by: Natural Law 2007-06-21 09:18 |
| #10 Juneteenth? Is that the summer version of Kwanzaa? Could we have, like, Caucasian Day? Maybe it could be, I dunno, Elvis's Birthday. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2007-06-21 09:06 |
| #9 "Juneteenth" What the hell is that? Sounds like another PC day bullshit excuse to go get hammered and act like animals. Where's the water cannon when you need it? I don't think this particular excuse for anti social behavior has been picked up on the east coast yet. I'll celebrate Augustith. I'll pretend that would be the day the No dogs or Irish allowed signs came down. Dumb shits. |
| Posted by: JerseyMike 2007-06-21 09:01 |
| #8 Illegals aren't the ones celebrating Juneteenth. Think more along the lines of Rodney King. |
| Posted by: Bob Sninter8558 2007-06-21 08:51 |
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| Posted by: Natural Law 2007-06-21 07:15 |
| #6 No tar or feathers? You're losing your touch. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2007-06-21 03:44 |
| #5 I doubt these thugs realize that this only encourages drivers to leave the scene of a collision without stopping to see if anyone is hurt. An eighteen wheeler plowing through one of these mobs came to mind for some reason. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-06-21 03:03 |
| #4 "The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said." Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.- John 15:13 KJV |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2007-06-21 01:37 |
| #3 Just call it a lynching. The Austin American-Statesman is soliciting tips on its website. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-06-21 01:16 |
| #2 Prolly all ilegals. |
| Posted by: 8872 2007-06-21 01:07 |
| #1 Everyone involved in it should ride the lightning. I don't care if it ends up being 300 people, they should pay because what they did is far worse than someone that accidently injures someone. Any riots should be put down by miniguns and flamethowers. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2007-06-21 00:33 |