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| Media Uproar – Mohammed’s (Pee Be Upon You) followers drank his urine. |
| 2007-06-19 |
| from MEMRI.. EFL The uproar is not because it’s false information, but because it’s true – and embarrassing apparently in "this day and age" -unlike pedaeophilia. An uproar in the Egyptian media followed the recent publication of a book by Egyptian Mufti Dr. Ali Gum'a in which he claimed that the companions of the Prophet Muhammad would drink his urine to be blessed. The fatwa provoked strong objections on the part of the Egyptian religious establishment. Leading Al-Azhar and Religious Endowments Ministry officials stated that Gum'a's conclusions were mistaken even though they were based on Islamic sources. They added that his claims were inappropriate for the modern era and that they only caused embarrassment in the Egyptian street and did damage to the Prophet and to Islam. There was an outcry against the fatwa from the Egyptian public, and a complaint was filed against Gum'a demanding that he stand trial for harming Islam, the Prophet, and the Companions of the Prophet. Columnists in the Egyptian papers ridiculed the fatwa and protested against it: While some argued that there was no point in raising such issues from the past that had nothing to do with public life today, others stated that the fatwa was for Islamic scholars, not for the masses, and still others said that it was a tool for those who sought to harm Islam. Some also called on Gum'a to resign from his post as the Mufti of Egypt. While according to some reports Gum'a had apologized for the fatwa, in actuality he clarified that he had not apologized, but had only decided to remove the book from the market and to refrain from appearing in the media until the uproar subsided. The following are a summary of the fatwa and excerpts from responses to it in the Egyptian press: Egyptian Mufti: The Companions of the Prophet Blessed Themselves with His Urine, Sweat and Saliva In his book Religion and Life - Modern Everyday Fatwas, Egyptian Mufti Dr. Ali Gum'a wrote that the companions of the Prophet Muhammad would bless themselves by drinking his urine, and described an incident of urine-drinking from a hadith: "Umm Ayman drank the urine of the Prophet, and the prophet told her: 'This stomach will not be dragged through the fire of Hell, because it contains something of our Lord the Messenger of Allah...' [1] "This blessing," Al-Gum'a added, "[can also] be done with the honorable saliva, sweat, hair, urine or blood of the Prophet. This is because anyone who knows the love of the Messenger of Allah is not repulsed [by these]; just as a mother is not repulsed by the feces of her son, this is even more so [in the case of] our Lord the Messenger of Allah, whom we love more than our fathers, sons, and wives. Anyone who was or is repulsed by the Messenger of Allah must recant his faith." [2] Following the ensuing uproar, Gum'a came to the defense of his fatwa, saying: "The entire body of the Prophet, whether exposed or hidden, is pure, and there is nothing in it- including his secretions - that [can] repulse anyone. His sweat smelled better than perfume. Umm Haram would collect this sweat and distribute it to the people of Al-Madina." [3] Dr. Gum'a added: "The hadith of Suhail bin Omar at Al-Hudaybiya says: 'Oh Lord, I was with Kisra [the ruler of Persia] and with Kaisar [the ruler of Byzantium] and I saw no instance in which the leader was glorified like the Companions of the Prophet glorified Muhammad. The second Muhammad spat, one of them would immediately hasten [to grab his saliva] and smear it upon his face.' Hence, the ulema, including Ibn Hajar Al-Askalani, Al-Baihaqi, Al-Daraqutni and Al-Haythami, determined that the Prophet's entire body was pure." [4] Several weeks later, the Egyptian press reported that Gum'a had apologized following objections to the fatwa voiced by the Academy of Islamic Research at Al-Azhar, and that he had promised, at the request of Al-Azhar Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, to have all copies of the book containing the fatwa taken off the market. [5] Later on, he explained that he had not apologized, but had only decided to refrain from appearing on the satellite television channels until the uproar died down. ... see article for more on the developing scandal of the century. This cult justs gets sicker and sicker the more ya learn. |
| Posted by:Thinemp Whimble |
| #11 His sweat smelled better than perfume. Haha! According to the hadith Muhammad suffered from a long-lasting disease, which he treated by means of bleeding. He walked as somebody who comes down from a hill. His skin-colour was peculiar, not white, not too tanned, somewhat rosy. His eyebrows were conspicuous. He was sweating heavily, especially when he was receiving revelations. He heard the noise of bells and voices. He had a great appetite and suffered from hunger. Notwithstanding his sexual relations with ten young women, he remained quasi-sterile: one only child after the age of forty years. During his last illness he suffered from intense headaches, losses of consciousness, back- and intestinal pains. He died at the age of 62 years. Psychologically he was known as trustworthy, somewhat retiring and prude. Initially, about at the age of forty years, he was depressed, retiring, and showed a tendency to suicide. He spoke slowly. Most typical were his great hands, dough feeling palms, great feet, a long fleshy nose, well developed ears and a peculiar voice. These indications suggest that he suffered from acromegaly. This hypothesis allows to explain almost all details found in the hadith. Acromegaly is caused by an adenoma of the pituitary, which causes an increase in growth hormone (somatotropine) and usually a deficiency or increase of other hormones such as gonadotropine. The disease begins in adult persons about the fourth decade of age. Most patients die about the age of 60 years. It is a long-lasting disease with slow progress, sometimes burning out. Most patients tolerate it reasonably well. The melanophore hormones secreted by the pituitary cause a peculiar straw-yellow skin-colour. Excessive sweating is sometimes caused by hyperthyroidism. Sweating can be oily and have an unpleasant odour. Patients suffer from high blood pressure. Some hirsutism is observed (eyebrows). The growth of all extremities after adult age causes also the vertebrae to extend and the spine to curve. This extension can cause pain as the nerves suffer pressure. Especially typical is the enlargement of the fingers and the dough like feeling of the palms when shaking hands. Rarely a bleeding of the pituitary occurs and causes dead: this apoplexy of the pituitary causes headaches, nausea, vomiting, losses of consciousness. Psychologically patients suffer initially from depression, brooding and irritability, also an increase of appetite and a loss of libido. Some patients are anxious and are lacking in self-confidence. When the adenoma exerts pressure on the third ventricle and the optic chiasma in the brain the patients may suffer from hallucinoses. Uniformly these patients are trustworthy. Their personality is characterised by conscientiousness, reliability and industriousness. Muslims don't stop at drinking Mohammed's urine. The suckers have been eating his shit for the past 1400 years. |
| Posted by: ed 2007-06-19 23:33 |
| #10 They are quite literally taking the non-proverbial piss |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2007-06-19 23:23 |
| #9 So, this whole "Piss Be Upon Him" thingy actually has some historical basis? |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-06-19 22:10 |
| #8 G’uma should have his very own fatwa on him soon. The funny thing is all the arguments about how this “scholastic” piece of information is being released now and how it plays into the hands of western ridicule.. The ME feels it’s only to give us fuel to mock Mohammad (Piss be inside you) well beyond the Mohammad cartoons out of Denmark. That begs the realization that mockery is bang on. And this new humiliation (but here, the Profit himself humiliates the cult) is going to stoke big fires if anyone in the west takes the bait. The more shame and humiliation and doubt and remorse that can be imbued, the better. Let them hear the laughter of the educated and free. The derision of those they oppress and the hopes of those they enslave. Mock this mockery of a “religion” and recognize the death, horror, warped insanity of it all. I say take it, this news flash of more piccadellos of Mohammed and reveal the cult for what it is. Also, National Lampoons 72 Virgins should be go, go, go. Laugh them out of any power they thing they hold. Laugh and point is a go. |
| Posted by: Thinemp Whimble 2007-06-19 20:06 |
| #7 So you're telling me that his S*&t didn't stink? |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2007-06-19 19:46 |
| #6 Glenmore, you've nailed it! :-) |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2007-06-19 18:34 |
| #5 So it's really the Religion of Piss, not Peace! |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2007-06-19 18:25 |
| #4 "They added that his claims were inappropriate for the modern era... " What?? Now they start talking about the modern era being different than the 7th Century? I like how they mention all the possible bodily fluids except the one that was actually swapped between men of that culture. |
| Posted by: Penguin 2007-06-19 18:24 |
| #3 His sweat smelled better than perfume. Umm Haram would collect this sweat and distribute it to the people of Al-Madina." These idiots are F*CKING INSANE!!! Dude, what the hell is wrong with muslim people? |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2007-06-19 17:52 |
| #2 So all that fury over "allegedly" a little toilet water getting on a copy of the Koran was just another example of projection by all the guilty parties [press, muzzies, the usual anti-American crowd, etc]? Wouldn't that really have been like blessing the water in this case? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2007-06-19 17:18 |
| #1 This is because anyone who knows the love of the Messenger of Allah is not repulsed [by these]; just as a mother is not repulsed by the feces of her son, Poor mom! |
| Posted by: Criling Fillmore7165 2007-06-19 17:01 |