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| al-Qaeda Warns US To Stop Searching For Missing Soldiers |
| 2007-05-14 |
| An Al Qaeda front group that claims it has captured American soldiers warned the United States on Monday to stop searching for them and suggested it attacked the U.S. convoy as revenge for the rape and murder of a local teenager last year. The U.S. military also said for the first time it believes the three missing soldiers were abducted by Al Qaeda-linked militants after an attack that included three roadside bombs. "What you are doing in searching for your soldiers will lead to nothing but exhaustion and headaches. Your soldiers are in our hands. If you want their safety, do not look for them," the Islamic State of Iraq said on a militant Web site. "You should remember what you have done to our sister Abeer in the same area," the statement said, referring to five American soldiers who were charged in the rape and killing of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and the killings of her parents and her younger sister last year. Three soldiers have pleaded guilty in the case — one of the most shocking atrocities committed by U.S. troops in the Iraq war. Three U.S. soldiers have been missing since Saturday, since a deadly attack on their convoy in Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. The attack also killed four U.S. soldiers and an Iraqi soldier, according to the military, which had described the Iraqi as an interpreter... |
| Posted by:Anonymoose |
| #16 Well, part of the problem is that the army isn't taking care of its soldiers who are surviving really bad conditions. No excuses whatsoever for the soldiers who were involved, but for the ones already on "psychological tilt," the constancy of a bad situation can push them over the edge. Glad they're in prison. And "retaliation kidnappings" are to be expected. The soldiers who broke the law are more to blame for the abduction than the Iraqis who are practicing their idea of justice in this instance. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2007-05-14 22:51 |
| #15 I see |
| Posted by: DepotGuy 2007-05-14 19:52 |
| #14 Per Excalibur's timeless suggestion; If Muslims weren't capable of justifying and forgiving themselves for every last single monstrosity imaginable, perhaps the bacon fat/pig's blood/pork entrails alternative might carry some weight. I'm confident that the instant we adopted such a policy, numerous fatwan would be spewed forth absolving even those who were deep fried in lard prior to burial. For that reason, I'm more willing to consider Plan B, as presented by Procopius2k: Oh, and make sure THEY understand that DNA samples of their remains will be recovered so if we get really PO'd, we can make sure to hunt down every male member of their gene pool and insure that they never contribute to the population on this planet again. It is critical that the West adjust its strategy to embrace—as needed—the elements of high context cultures. One pivotal construct of such backwards societies is an overwhelming reliance on familial ties. The is a singlular reason why it is so difficult to penetrate terrorist cells. Many of them exhibit strong family interconnections. While it may seem off topic, I still question whether there is not also a degree of congenital disposition to psychopathy, retardation and general enfeeblement that arises from centuries, if not millennia of Arabic inbreeding through marriage to cousins. Add to this the dire need of adopting a policy of collective punishment and retribution against entire families begins to take on a tactical dimension. Please do not think to feed me any horseradish about how unacceptable collective punishment is. Dhimmitude is a pluperfect example of collective punishment and Islam must have the tables turned upon it at every opportunity. Much like Dulmatin's children were captured in a recent assault, it must become common policy to make the families of terrorists assume some degree of the burden. Too often there is a broad streak of fundamentalism in these clans and initiating a policy of eradicating the most hostile amongst them might well be a genetic method of culling the tendency towards jihad. Personally, I'm at the point where we damn well better consider such previously distasteful approaches. Soon enough far more ruthless measures will present themselves as our only option and I'd like to think we exhausted less catastrophic approaches before that time comes. Islam vigorously pushes forward the hands of its doomsday clock at every turn. There is a limit to how much we should or even can resist the rapid escalation that jihadists impose upon the time table of dealing with Islamic terrorism. If we claim to have an iota of humanity in us, then let's do Islam a favor and begin implementing the same harsh measures it seeks to impose upon us. Little else will do squat with respect to informing Islam of the rapidly mounting tab that has yet to be paid by this world's Muslim population. Until we have the courage to make Islam's constant predations upon the West painful in the extreme to Muslims in general, and their jihadist families in particular, little will change. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-05-14 18:58 |
| #13 The only practical solution I see to this is to make Al-Q's life miserable. Round up 100 of their guys and get them to sing. Keep pulling on the string until you get all you can. We came down on the area pretty hard, which I doubt they could have fully prepared for by bugging out as usual. Maybe next time. I'll bet we end up with a bunch of them. If we are successful, they will think twice before they try this stunt again. Hopefully in this process we will end up with our guys back, but if they can't show proof of life by now in this internet age, it makes me worry they have nothing to produce but that they are hoping to use the threat as cover to get out of the hot water that I hope they are finding themselves in. And if this area peters out, go find another one and lean on it using the same reasoning "we think they are here". Rinse and repeat until they get the idea. |
| Posted by: gorb 2007-05-14 18:57 |
| #12 I would set a 10 mile circular perimeter. I would not hunt anything. I would gather the clan leaders and tell them they have 4 hours to produce the US soldiers.After that evrything inside the circle is destroyed. It should be clear that this is the one and only ultimatum they get. |
| Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-05-14 18:38 |
| #11 convicted for what all invading armies heretofore have considered an traditional job perk. And what the jihadis consider their holy privilege. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2007-05-14 17:43 |
| #10 danking-70, you forgot the winky thingy, like I do to often. ;-) Of course Al Qaeda was in Iraq before 2003. They were there before 9/11, too, being trained in advanced terror techniques at Saddam Hussein's Salman Pak facility: one side for Iraqi specialists, no doubt many of whom became "insurgents" post-invasion, the other side for a variety of terrorists studying airplane hijacking, bomb making, chemical and biological weapons production, and so forth. *shrug* Not that this is new information to anyone here. As for the rape being a shocking atrocity, I'm quite proud that our troops are so well behaved on the whole that all are appalled when a small number committed violence against a girl and her family... and were quickly arrested, tried and convicted for what all invading armies heretofore have considered an traditional job perk. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-05-14 16:54 |
| #9 "An Al Qaeda front group that claims it has captured American soldiers warned the United States on Monday to stop searching for them" Why? Are we getting too close? I don't care if we find them or the local tribal sheiks find them - I want results to be the same, whether our guys are found alive or not. Kill all the bastards involved. Painfully. And, if possible, let female troops do the shooting. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2007-05-14 16:23 |
| #8 one of the most shocking atrocities committed by U.S. troops in the Iraq war. Funny, innit. Our enemies have a strategy that consists of "commit atrocities until everyone gets sick of fighting us", yet their acts are buried, while the criminal acts of a few of our soldiers are turned into icons. How many news stories are reporting that taking lawful combatants hostage and holding them without access to the Red Cross is a war crime? I'd bet the number approaches zero. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2007-05-14 16:23 |
| #7 Oh, and make sure THEY understand that DNA samples of their remains will be recovered so if we get really PO'd, we can make sure to hunt down every male member of their gene pool and insure that they never contribute to the population on this planet again. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2007-05-14 15:57 |
| #6 We should let them know that the people found in possession of our soldiers will be bathed in pig's blood and hung by pig entrails from the neck until dead. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2007-05-14 15:41 |
| #5 We never stop and never forget. Sleep well hostage takers, whoever and wherever you are. We will find you and kill you. No glory bomb, no press, no great ending, just painful death, alone and afraid. See you soon. Yours truely DOD |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2007-05-14 15:41 |
| #4 An Al Qaeda front group that claims it has captured American soldiers warned the United States on Monday to stop searching for them and suggested it attacked the U.S. convoy as revenge for the rape and murder of a local teenager last year. The first treasonous c*nt "protester" with a sign referencing this propaganda should be tarred and feathered. Boiling pitch should get the message across. |
| Posted by: Excalibur 2007-05-14 15:34 |
| #3 Well, not in 2003, danking_70, but they flocked in to help out the Brave Lions of Isalm in their resistance against the evil, crusader, cross-worshipping, occupiers dispatched by Bushitler to benefit Haliburton and the oiloiloil companies like Citgo. That's why the government destroyed the World Trade ... oh, nevermind. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2007-05-14 15:19 |
| #2 WTF? Al-Qaeda's not in Iraq.... |
| Posted by: danking_70 2007-05-14 15:08 |
| #1 Must be getting close.. |
| Posted by: Chenter Unimp7361 2007-05-14 15:01 |