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| 2007-05-04 | ||||
| Well, it's certainly getting interesting on the Eastern front ... TALLINN -- Estonia has launched a criminal probe to try to identify who has posted calls on the Internet for the armed overthrow of the Estonian government, officials said Thursday. "The security police have opened a criminal inquiry to identify the persons who are issuing calls on the Internet for violence targeting the sovereignty and independence of the Republic of Estonia," Piret Seeman, spokeswoman of the prosecutor's office, said in a statement. "The text of the appeal repeatedly refers to the violent seizure of power and to violent changes to Estonia's constitutional order," Seeman said.
I live in Estonia. I talked to several Russian friends last night who received an e-mail instructing them that a rebellion would occur on May 9, and they should arm themselves to take down the 'fascist government'. None of them had any idea how they got their e-mail addresses.
"There are many Internet appeals and SMS messages calling for rallies on that day, but I am asking everyone not to submit to provocation," he said. May 9 is the day Russia, and the large ethnic Russian minority in Estonia, marks the 1945 defeat over Nazi Germany in World War II. Estonia marks the allied victory over Hitler May 8, together with the rest of Western Europe. Demonstrations have been banned until May 11 in Tallinn ... ... as well as most alcohol sales ... :-( ... and the surrounding region, following last week's riots over the removal of a Soviet war memorial. The removal of the statue has plunged Estonia into a bitter row with Moscow, which ruled over the Baltic nation for five decades after World War II ... ... don't forget the year of "rule" BEFORE World War II ... when Estonia was a Soviet republic. Russians see the statue at the heart of the row as a sacred memorial to Red Army soldiers who defeated Nazism, while Estonians view it as a bitter reminder of the long Soviet occupation. The statue is fine. It's in a very good place, surrounded by the honored war dead. Here are some pictures I took on May Day, surrounded by hundreds of the honored (Soviet) dead: Bronze Soldier I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But there is plenty of stories that this entire episode has been orchestrated from the highest levels of the Kremlin. From the cyberattacks and the meetings with Russian embassy staffers with some of last week's riot instigators, to the economic boycott to the attack on the Estonian ambassador yesterday ... then you combine it with this post from the editor of City Paper with a Russian military officer (City Paper is a pan-Baltic English-language news magazine for business-oriented ex-pats) ... it looks like May 9 will be an interesting day in this part of the world.
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| Posted by:Mizzou Mafia |
| #11 It's probably a bit late to say it, but welcome! Nesvarbukas and Sam! Oh, and Sam, I quite enjoyed your "beyond the soundbites" series. And there was much rejoicing, indeed. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-05-04 23:48 |
| #10 Wel-l-l, various international messageboard/forum sites have received postings or articles from seemingly dedicated anti-Americans = anti-Caucasians/Xtremists calling for de facto ARMED REVOLUTION INSIDE THE USA + ESTABLISHMENT OF INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN, OR "PARALLEL", ISLAMIST-MUSLIM + AFRICAN/NEGRO + HISPANIC-LATINO "STATES" = "HOMELANDS" = ARMED ENCLAVES. IMO, their greatest debate between these anti-US Xtremists is whether these new "Nations" = "Homelands", etc. will be $$$ dependent? on Washington DC = remnant of America??? |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2007-05-04 21:57 |
| #9 P.S.: This guy is probably part of the Nashi "pro-Putin" brigade that has been barricading the Estonian embassy. Since the Nashi's were paid for their "demonstration," this week, who knows how far the rabbit hole goes? |
| Posted by: Mizzou Mafia 2007-05-04 18:43 |
| #8 One of my govt. sources told me that the Estonians have identified the sender of the incitement e-mail as a 20-something Russian in Moscow. NOT the Kremlin, which is a relief, IMO, regarding May 9. They've asked the Russian govt. to arrest him. ;-D |
| Posted by: Mizzou Mafia 2007-05-04 18:32 |
| #7 NATO crews also flew AWACs patrols over the US after 9/11. |
| Posted by: mrp 2007-05-04 17:20 |
| #6 We looked for it on 9/12 and couldn't find it. Not quite true. They volunteered to help in Afghanistan. Rummy decided to pursue things in alone. Not a bad decision as events have shown. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2007-05-04 16:51 |
| #5 Just read the gun laws, which basically say that: 1. Estonian citizens at least 18 years old can apply for permits to own non-rifled guns and hunting weapons. 2. Estonian citizens at least 21 years old can apply for permits to own all civilian-use firearms. 3. Resident permit holders can apply for permits to own non-rifled guns and hunting weapons, if they have permits to own such weapons from their country of citizenship, if such permits are required there. So any weapons these people would be carrying would likely be illegal. I wouldn't recommend waving around guns in Estonia, as both our cops and the Kaitseliit, our semi-civilian National Guard are armed to the teeth as well. |
| Posted by: Sam 2007-05-04 16:28 |
| #4 Nesvarbukas, M-16s are 5.56mm. |
| Posted by: RWV 2007-05-04 15:33 |
| #3 regarding the arming: in Lithuania it is allowed to carry guns up to 6 mm for self-defence without any permission, just be over 18. Weapons over 6 mm are allowed for self-defence, but this needs passing courses, doctors, paperwork. |
| Posted by: Nesvarbukas 2007-05-04 15:14 |
| #2 The US Senate today passed a resolution supporting Estonia and rebuking Russia. The resolution's main sponsors were Joes Biden and Lieberman. As reported by Novosti. |
| Posted by: mrp 2007-05-04 13:35 |
| #1 How well armed are the Russians living in Estonia? |
| Posted by: mrp 2007-05-04 12:22 |