Thousands of demonstrators protesting the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq marched on the Pentagon yesterday, jeered along the way by large numbers of angry counter-protesters. Organizers billed the antiwar rally as marking the 40th anniversary of the 1967 march on the Pentagon. At times, verbal clashes during the cold and blustery day demonstrated that the bitter divisions of four decades ago sparked by Vietnam are very much alive in the debate over Iraq.Couldn't be different bitter divisions, I suppose.
Nope. Couldn't be. All bitter divisions are the same, all outcomes are the same. You should now grow your hair long to show you're on the correct side and head off for Haight-Ashbury. Bobby Kennedy is about to be assassinated and Nixon will be elected president. You know what's coming after that.
The march, part of a weekend of protests that included smaller demonstrations in other U.S. cities and abroad, comes as the
Paul Miller, 72, a Korean War-era Marine Corps veteran who flew from California for the march with his brother, was making his first appearance at an antiwar rally.
| "I was like everybody else. I trusted the people who ran the country, and I'm tired of being lied to," Miller said. |
And it must be a lie when people say my actions cause more casualties. Actions? Consequences? They're related? Who knew?
"Liars and thieves, the lot of 'em!"
Organizers said yesterday's march on the Pentagon reflected the public's sense of betrayal over the escalation of the war. As some speakers called for the impeachment of President
| Much of the passion yesterday was supplied by thousands of counter-demonstrators, many of them veterans who mobilized from across the country to gather around the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. |
Beacuse the cops were everywhere, including on horses, and visitors to the Wall were going through metal detectors. But I'm sure none of the protestors wanted to vandalize anything.
Others said they were tired of war protesters claiming to speak for the country. "I'm here because I think we need to commit to our troops in the field," said Guy Rocca, 63, a veteran who drove nine hours from Detroit.
| Some counter-protesters yelled obscenities and mocked the marchers as traitors. War protesters responded with angry words of their own, and police intervened at times to prevent shouting matches from escalating. |
But when they have Woodstock again they might get laid. But they might also get beaten to death next Altamont.
When marchers reached the Virginia side of the bridge, they were greeted by more protesters at the traffic circle in front of Arlington National Cemetery, along with a banner that read in part: "You dishonor our dead on Hallowed ground." The war protesters might have found the warmest reception of the day at the Pentagon, where police had the building blocked off, but no counter-demonstrators were waiting. "It's strange to say, but welcome to the Pentagon," said protest leader Mara Veheyden-Hilliard, speaking on a stage in the north parking lot as the first streams of marchers began arriving.
A group of Which they left littered with signs and trash.
Organizers, who had predicted tens of thousands of marchers would demonstrate, gave estimates ranging from 15,000 to 30,000. Police no longer provide official estimates of crowd size but informally put it at 10,000 to 20,000, with a smaller but sizable contingent of counter-protesters.
But we'll not dignify the counter-protestors with an estimate of the numbers, or a comparison to other counter-protests. The numbers might suggest an alarming trend.
War protest leaders said a large winter storm that hit the Northeast hurt turnout. More than 60 bus loads of protesters who had been scheduled to come from the region canceled their trips Friday night, according to Brian Becker, national coordinator for the Answer Coalition, the event's main sponsor. It was quickly apparent that the weather had not prevented counter-demonstrators, many in black leather motorcycle jackets, from showing up in force and surrounding all sides of the Wall. At one point before the march started, counter-demonstrators formed a gantlet along an asphalt walkway on Constitution Avenue and heaped verbal abuse at protesters who walked through on their way to the assembly area. One Vietnam veteran in a wheelchair yelled obscenities at demonstrators, including some with children.
Nasty old veteran! Saying bad words children could hear! Control your temper, like us peaceful protestors.
He's probably insane from the post-traumatic stress syndrome and the among of Ageng Orange he ingested. He'd be institutionalized if the VA wasn't run by liars and thieves.
Some demonstrators supporting the war effort engaged in good-natured banter with war protesters. But others blocked paths and prevented marchers from getting near the Wall, particularly anyone carrying a sign. District resident Eric Anderson, 47, had his sign ripped from his hands and thrown in the mud.
Where he left it, amidst the other trash and debris, for someone else to clean up.
Bob Anders, 60, an Iowa banker who said he served with the 25th Infantry Division in Vietnam and rode a bus from Iowa to protest the war, had his heart set on seeing the memorial but turned around after seeing the situation. "I've never seen the memorial, and I wanted to see it in a spirit of protest," he said.All you had to do was wait in line and be screened, Bob.
After speeches from antiwar activists including Cindy Sheehan, the first marchers took off across the bridge shortly before 1 p.m. The marchers began arriving at the Pentagon about 1:45, some gathering in front of the stage in the north parking lot and others perched on a hill by a Route 27 overpass. About 2:10, a group of several hundred young people
... average age about 12 year old...
continued past the rally point and marched down Route 27 toward the south parking lot until they confronted a police barricade. Some youths who carried traffic barrels cut in half and painted red and black as shields and wore scarves over their faces pressed forward as Pentagon police, backed by Virginia state troopers in riot gear, stood two layers deep, trying to push them back. When that failed, the police donned gas masks. One of the protesters threw a firecracker, and many people ran off.
Which could've started some gunfire. Nice try, Wacko.
Sounds like the anarchists were well-organized...
| ... there's an interesting contradiction ... |
They thought they were in Chicago...
Then protesters took a vote and opted to back off.
How democratic!
| Anarchists took a vote? |
| Among those marching on a day of cold, whipping wind was Maureen Dooley of Melfa, Va., who first marched on the Pentagon when she was 18; now she is 58. |
The Pentagon's windswept north parking lot was cold, and many protesters did not linger long. By 3:30 p.m., only a few hundred marchers remained huddled around the stage.
| Now, with a voice fatigued from chanting litanies against the president and feet tired from marching on the military industrial complex, Gaunt just counted the hours to the group's scheduled bus pickup at 7 p.m. |
I can verify that, and it's well out of the wind.
One group that had come by overnight bus from Iowa City huddled on the floor near the station elevators. They had survived the 22-hour bus ride as well as the insults of the counter-protesters, only to be defeated by the bitter cold.
Funny; I had a winter coat with a hood, and my legs wore out before I got cold.
"We just couldn't take it anymore," said Christine Gaunt, 50, a hog farmer from Grinnell, Iowa. Now, with a voice fatigued from chanting litanies against the president and feet tired from marching on the military industrial complex, Gaunt just counted the hours to the group's scheduled bus pickup at 7 p.m. If she was lucky, she said in a tired voice, she would get home this afternoon, just in time to haul her pigs to the Sunday market.
Good touch, that: the horny-handed daughter of toil.