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Afghanistan
U.S. Launches Artillery Into Pakistan
2007-02-11
Asserting a right to self-defense, American forces in eastern Afghanistan have launched artillery rounds into Pakistan to strike Taliban fighters who attack remote U.S. outposts, the commander of U.S. forces in the region said Sunday.

The skirmishes are politically sensitive because Pakistan's government, regarded by the Bush administration as an important ally against Islamic extremists, has denied that it allows U.S. forces to strike inside its territory. The use of the largely ungoverned Waziristan area of Pakistan as a haven for Taliban and al-Qaida fighters has become a greater irritant between Washington and Islamabad since Pakistan put in place a peace agreement there in September that was intended to stop cross-border incursions.

Army Col. John W. Nicholson, commander of the 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, said in an Associated Press interview that rather than halt such incursions, the peace deal has led to a substantial increase. Pakistani border forces, which had been active in stopping Taliban incursions into Afghanistan as recently as last spring, stopped offensive actions against them once the peace deal took effect, he said. "That did relax some of the pressure on the enemy," Nicholson said.
Posted by:john

#15  If its WWI stuff, then we have been there and done that. Let us do it better this time, and leave dead Taliban on the wire, on the trail back home, and at their base in P-land.
Posted by: whatadeal   2007-02-11 22:33  

#14  It's a funny kind of war when "important allies" are fighting against you.
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222   2007-02-11 17:03  

#13  If Pakistan doesn't exert real control over the "ungoverned" Wazoo, then it can't be described as Pakistani territory, or anyone's, besides the terrorists'.
The current situation is preferable to a Pakistan governed by OBL, Mullah Omar, and their Merry Men, with the US trying to infiltrate forces to exfiltrate nukes. The vast majority of Paks would prefer to be ruled by the Taliban. All they really want is more Islam.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2007-02-11 15:39  

#12  How would you know if it worked?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-02-11 15:15  

#11  Should shoot back shells filled with psychoactive substances at those Paki border posts.
Posted by: 3dc   2007-02-11 14:45  

#10  Yeah, you missed a few,

Peace means that Islamic jihadi's have the right to kill with impunity any non-Islamic person, but if the infidels dare to defend themselves they have insulted all Islam and therefore must all die.

Peace means that anything an infidel does can be taken as an affront to all Islam and all infidels must therefore all die.

Peace means that anywhere in the entire world can be claimed as the X Most Holy Site In All Islam and therefore the infidels have no right to the land and must all die.

Peace means that the entire world must be converted to Islam by force and all infidels must die.

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2007-02-11 14:41  

#9   What is Pigistan getting from the US? A billion? What is the US getting? Terror

Actually, I think it's more like a protection racket. The threat is what hasn't happened but could if we stopped our "benevolence." A lesser version of Egypt's scam.
Posted by: xbalanke   2007-02-11 14:40  

#8  When Moslems talk about "peace" here is what they mean:

- it's the House of Peace (aka "religion of peace"): we're at peace with fellow Moslems, and forever at war with infidels (aka "peacefully convert or die!")

- we propose a cease-fire as a preliminary step for peace: we want a hudna, just like Mo', because we need to regroup and time+money to prepare our next attack (see "house of peace" above --we can't live in peace unless we're at war with non-Moslems, Mo' said so)

- peace agreement: we agree your area is Moslem, hence part of the House of Peace, so you're at war against infidels. We'll help you out

Is there any other Moslem meaning of peace that I've missed?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2007-02-11 14:03  

#7  What is Pigistan getting from the US? A billion? What is the US getting? Terror.

As long as the UN subsidy for Afghan jihad bases in Pigistan continues, there can be no peace in Afghanistan. Those phony refugee camps should have been vacated long ago.
Posted by: Sneaze   2007-02-11 13:44  

#6  It is SOP for Pakistani border troops to fire across borders to facilitate infiltration or exfiltration of terrorists..
Posted by: john   2007-02-11 13:37  

#5  "If a fire mission is being called that would impact on a Pakistan border post, we typically will not shoot - we will not shoot that mission,"

That sound like Paki troops are firing at our boys!

Posted by: 3dc   2007-02-11 13:18  

#4  This is a fun little game we Americans like to play called "Catch".
Posted by: Dar   2007-02-11 13:17  

#3  ROE gives a free pass to the Talibunny tea party at the border posts? More insanity.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger   2007-02-11 13:02  

#2  Nicholson said the computers used to target U.S. artillery are programmed with the map coordinates of Pakistani border posts.

Time to start using those coordinates.
Posted by: john   2007-02-11 12:52  

#1  "We do not allow the enemy to fire with impunity on our soldiers, and we have the inherent right of self defense,"

absofrickinlutely
Posted by: Frank G   2007-02-11 12:35  

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