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Home Front: WoT
Military Taking a Tougher Line With Detainees
2006-12-16
GUANTÁNAMO BAY, Cuba, Dec. 10 — As the first detainees began moving last week into Guantánamo’s modern, new detention facility, Camp 6, the military guard commander stood beneath the high, concrete walls of the compound, looking out on a fenced-in athletic yard.

The yard, where the detainees were to have played soccer and other sports, had been part of a plan to ease the conditions under which more than 400 men are imprisoned here, nearly all of them without having been charged. But that plan has changed. “At this point, I just don’t see using that,” the guard commander, Col. Wade F. Dennis, said.

After two years in which the military sought to manage terrorism suspects at Guantánamo with incentives for good behavior, steady improvements in their living conditions and even dialogue with prison leaders, the authorities here have clamped down decisively in recent months.
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#34  “I don’t think there is such a thing as a medium-security terrorist.”

It's almost as if Admiral Harris reads the 'burg. I'd have loved to have seen the MSM's faces when he said that 'un. Borderline snark of the day for me.

IP shows up as L.A.. I think that it's our San Jose troll, tho.

Jeebus, Pappy...I immediately thought you meant the "redneck" L.A. (Lower Alabama). But, then I saw your thought on San Jose and all's well. I was'a wonderin' how that troll would survive in Lower Alabama, lol!
Posted by: BA   2006-12-16 21:46  

#33  tw, automotive components that are powered from the engine's crankshaft usually are connected by tensioned belts, often called "fan belts". When stringing these belts between the various pulleys (i.e., A/C, alternator, water pump, etc.), it is critical to leave a small amount of slack to account for thermal expansion and to prevent off-axis torsion of the bearings that support the axles of those pullies. Over-tightening the belts will actually load those bearings causing excessive friction and premature failure.

This slang is probably akin to our usual round of "over-torqued turbans" and such.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-16 20:54  

#32  IP shows up as L.A.. I think that it's our San Jose troll, tho.
Posted by: Pappy   2006-12-16 20:50  

#31  no IP for that trash-talking butt-pirate-bait bitch?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-12-16 19:58  

#30  Thank you, Deacon Blues. That makes more sense than being connected to a ceiling fan.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-16 19:37  

#29  tw, next time you see a picture of a Saudi look at what holds his kaffia on his head. Looks like a fan belt off a 54 Oldsmobile.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-12-16 19:24  

#28  ridniktrshr: It's nice when ur allowed to communicate with the world isn't it? I suggest you learn English before you try it again. In the meantime just howl continuously as the carers are busy so busy almost constantly busy with, ahem your type! and its so annoying when the limbs you cant control cause you to thrash out of your cradle.
Posted by: pihkalbadger   2006-12-16 19:18  

#27   strapped on the fan belts real tight

It sounds picturesque, but I'd understand the metaphor a lot better if I knew what that meant. I didn't know my ceiling fan had a belt...
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-16 19:10  

#26  "most seem to feel that its a waste of our money and that 9 grams of lead is a more cost effective way of dealing with Islamic whack jobs."

Yip-per. Funny you mention it, the law of war permits it. (I mean real, actual, binding law, not the candyland agitprop the UN/NGOs/EU/MSM/etc. are always whining about.) Two categories of persons are explicitly not protected: spies and terrorists. Nation of origin doesn't have to claim them, and nation of capture doesn't have to say what they do with em.

Maybe one of these days, we'll quit worrying about whether these little princesses can feel the pea under the mattress, and stick to only the bare minimum obligations.

Maybe one of these days, we won't be able to afford much more than that.
Posted by: exJAG   2006-12-16 19:00  

#25  “I don’t think there is such a thing as a medium-security terrorist.”

Always a pleasure to see common sense take hold.

strapped on the fan belts real tight

That one's a keeper, ed.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-12-16 17:57  

#24  I live in a small very southern town and most people I talk to couldnt give a rats ass about people in G-Bay by the Sea. In fact, most seem to feel that its a waste of our money and that 9 grams of lead is a more cost effective way of dealing with Islamic whack jobs.

But what do we know were just dumb redneck infidels. Who don't like to be told what to and how to act.
Posted by: SCpatriot   2006-12-16 17:53  

#23  Give Abdul a break. He just out of Gitmo, strapped on the fan belts real tight and decided to for a drive on the internet. Can't expect a muzzie playa to type coherent sentences after 5 years of regularly drinking his own piss and semen (otherwise known as an Arab martini).
Posted by: ed   2006-12-16 17:33  

#22  "Come back when yer coherent."

If ever.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2006-12-16 17:14  

#21  Aw, Pappy, you went and squished it.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-16 17:11  

#20  son of a whore fag redneck

English yo' second language, boy? Reckon they don't teach spellin' or punctuation in them California schools no more.

people like you we THE AMERICAN PEOPLE call scum

Ah think you mispelled 'Pakistani', knothead.

and there is not place in this country to shit like you. poster of this racist scum rantburg crap yor site will be reported

Reported to who? The UN? Come back when yer coherent.
Posted by: Pappy   2006-12-16 16:12  

#19  i like rednecktrasher's purty lips.
Posted by: RD   2006-12-16 16:00  

#18  What this change in policy also reflects is the legislation passed by Congress and used by a Clinton district court judge to dismiss a case brought by Gitmo detainees because they do not have standing in U. S. courts. I'd expect that every case they lose will result in another tightening of the screws. Ironically, this is one of the areas where the donks (aka Hillary) could tighten up the GWOT ROE because the trunks would not side with the Terrs for partisan advantage the way the donks do.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-12-16 15:35  

#17  Save this one for a newbie troll-hunter. Too easy for the local trained killers.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-16 15:23  

#16  Hoooo-kaaaaaayyy .....

Open season on the chew toy!
Posted by: Steve White   2006-12-16 15:20  

#15  ...sneak....
I hate it when that happens!
Posted by: JustAboutEnough   2006-12-16 15:12  

#14  #12 - Redneck Trasher
Gee, , is it just me or does the composition of the opening sentence tell all it needs to say about the ethnic origins of your thought patterns? I'm from the South by birth, and you just don't sound like any bubba or joe 6-pack I know.
If the story and comments offend you........ get used to it! Your ability to sneack under the radar in our society and your abuse of our tolerance is about over faisal, warm up your direct connect line to CAIR, 'cause America is fast becoming an unfriendly place for ya!
Posted by: JustAboutEnough   2006-12-16 15:11  

#13  Boris where ya been Babe?
Posted by: The Mossad   2006-12-16 14:35  

#12  son of a whore fag redneck, people like you we THE AMERICAN PEOPLE call scum and there is not place in this country to shit like you. poster of this racist scum rantburg crap yor site will be reported
Posted by: rednecktrasher   2006-12-16 14:15  

#11  Thank God for Adm. Harris. Some common sense finally comes to the fore. Only one thing to change. If the bastards refuse to eat, let them expire. Just dispose quietly at sea. No mention of it anywhere.
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-12-16 11:28  

#10  Clarification of #9: the process I propose involves snatching a couple of hundred Iraqis off the street, taking them to a detention center, and assuming that carrot and stick tactics will cause at least a few to inform on terror masters. Everybody knows something. Anyone can be squeezed.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-16 09:32  

#9  Red-flag: the military wouldn't be doing that unless they either have reason to suspect or already know that the new policies that the President is due to announce in early January, involve opening multiple cans of kick-ass.

Again, investigative detentions - similar to what is allowed on US soil under the "Terry" decision of the Supreme Court - will produce intelligence necessary to eliminate terror cells in Baghdad first, then elsewhere. Good intelligence, achieved with the assistance of Iraqis, will enable pre-emption of terrorism. As it is, Iraqization is a distant dream unless local troops have reason to believe that terrorists fear them.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-16 09:27  

#8  I assume everyone knows that the Marine on the left is JerseyMikes little bruder. Definitely someone I want on my side in any sort of tense social situation.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-16 09:25  

#7  Ahem, heavily mined as in land mines for you environmental geeks.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-12-16 09:20  

#6  Let them loose into Castro's Cuba! They can run across what many experts believe is the most heavily mined piece of land in the world.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden   2006-12-16 09:19  

#5  Officials said the shift reflected the military’s analysis — after a series of hunger strikes, a riot last May and three suicides by detainees in June — that earlier efforts to ease restrictions on the detainees had gone too far.

Sow, reap! Cause and effect feedback loops are a wonderful thing when they function properly.



Posted by: Mick Dundee   2006-12-16 09:16  

#4  Or you could just hang them.
Posted by: Excalibur   2006-12-16 08:40  

#3  NYT handwringing. Let them take a cup of feces, urine and semen in the face....

Posted by: Frank G   2006-12-16 08:23  

#2  Good. Now make sure that the prisioners are not able to talk to each other through the wire fencing by leaving too much space between occupied "Yards", or staggering exercise periods, or both.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-12-16 08:15  

#1  Exercise yards were divided up into a series of one-muzz one-man pens.
Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-16 05:43  

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