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Labour MP calls for end to cousin marriage following Newsnight investigation
2006-11-19
A Labour MP has called for an end to the practice of cousin marriage after a Newsnight investigation reports that British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with recessive disorders than the general population. The same research shows that British Pakistanis account for 3.4% of all births but have 30% of all British children with recessive disorders.
It's not like this is something new. Starting from the late Middle Ages, the royal famblies of Europe had to petition the Pope for exemptions to poke their close relatives. The fact that they did so petition accounts for the number of bleeders who regularly attended coronation balls, as well as for some of the more interesting mental aberrations among the aristocracy.
Keighley MP Ann Cryer says: "As we address problems of smoking, drinking, obesity, we say it's a public health issue, and therefore we all have to get involved with it in persuading people to adopt a different lifestyle. I think the same should be applied to this problem in the Asian community. They must adopt a different lifestyle. They must look outside the family for husbands and wives for their young people."
Infidel.
Mrs Cryer tells the BBC TWO programme: "There is something very wrong going on. I think the sooner we start to have a debate and we start to encourage the Asian community to address it themselves by saying we have to stop this tradition of first cousin marriages."
They don't let their sheep breed like that, so why would they think it's okay to do it themselves?
It is estimated that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and the tradition is also common among some other South Asian communities and in some Middle Eastern countries.

Mrs Cryer's constituency is the Bradford area, where local doctors estimate that three quarters of marriages in Bradford's Pakistani community are between first cousins. Dr Peter Corry, Consultant Paediatrician at Bradford Royal Infirmary, says his hospital sees so many recessive genetic illnesses that it has become a centre of excellence for the treatment of some of them.
See, it's good for medical education!
Dr Corry tells the programme they have identified about 140 different autosomal recessive disorders among local children. He estimates that a typical district would see 20 to 30.
Birmingham Primary Care Trust estimates that one in ten of all children born to first cousin marriages in Birmingham's large Pakistani community either dies in infancy or goes on to suffer serious disability as a result of recessive genetic disorders.

Recessive genetic illness is one of the main reasons for admission to the city's children's hospital. But, because cousin marriage has such a long history, raising these risks is sometimes interpreted as a challenge to the community's culture.

The variant genes that cause recessive genetic illnesses tend to be very rare. In the general population the likelihood of a couple having the same variant gene is a hundred to one. In cousin marriages, if one partner has a variant gene the risk that the other has it too is far higher – more like one in eight.

But, as Newsnight discovers, some within the Pakistani community reject the evidence of a link between cousin marriage and genetic illness. The programme reports on a campaign on the issue by Birmingham Primary Care Trust which raised awareness but was criticised by some sections of the city's Pakistani community.

The report also shows that cousin marriages can be strong and enduring. Neila Butt is married to her first cousin Farooq and lives with him and their two children – Daneesh and Hikmar. Neila says she is glad she has married her cousin. She says: "You have an understanding, you have the same family history. When you talk about old times, either here or in Pakistan, you know who you're talking about. It's just a nicer emotional feel. Family events are really nice because my in-laws and Farooq's in-laws are together and related."
Posted by:john

#21  Producing this rate of defects somewhat offsets the effect, it would seem to me.

Yes, but it burdens the host country so much more than the usual welfare jizya.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-11-19 23:28  

#20   British Pakistanis account for 3.4% of all births but have 30% of all British children with recessive disorders.

Was it Mullah Krekar in Norway who was boasting about the birth rate differential -- something like 1.4 births/native European female vs. 3.5 births/Muslim female? Producing this rate of defects somewhat offsets the effect, it would seem to me.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-11-19 22:37  

#19  LOL Abu!
Posted by: Madonna   2006-11-19 22:29  

#18  And, no, Zenster. Let the bride in. Keep the groom out. There's no need to send the little lady back to a misogynistic "culture".

Works for me, Blondie. Now, please try and get the INS to see it that way. My only point is that this is another fine method of making our nation more unfriendly to Islam. We need to do this in every way possible within our current constitutional framework until it can be altered to account for the unmitigated perfidy that is Islam.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-11-19 22:27  

#17  On the bright side, "Dueling Banjos" might sound really cool played on two sitars...
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)   2006-11-19 21:54  

#16  Every time I hear a Bluegrass tune I think of a cold beer and a First Cousin.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2006-11-19 20:35  

#15  It certainly explains a lot about the behavior of the Pakistanis back in the old country.

And, no, Zenster. Let the bride in. Keep the groom out. There's no need to send the little lady back to a misogynistic "culture".
Posted by: Swamp Blondie   2006-11-19 20:30  

#14  Newsnight makes a great leap forward when
"But, as Newsnight discovers, some within the Pakistani community reject the evidence of a link between cousin marriage and genetic illness"

Who would have thought the advanced Pakis would reject science ? Why it's unthinkable.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-11-19 18:55  

#13  Recessive genetic illness is one of the main reasons for admission to the city's children's hospital. But, because cousin marriage has such a long history, raising these risks is sometimes interpreted as a challenge to the community's culture.

Throughout history, the inability to listen to reason has resulted in far more health complications than merely boinking a cousin or two.

This law needs to be enacted right away. It is a perfect example, along with banning the burqa, niqab and hijab of ways to make Western cultures unfriendly to Islam.

People of MME (Muslim Middle East) origin returning to the United States (or elsewhere) with a bride should both be tested for closely matching DNA. If marriage to a cousin is indicated, the bride must not be allowed entrance.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-11-19 18:49  

#12  Mother-in-law of all fatwas coming down on MP Cryer.
Posted by: ed   2006-11-19 16:05  

#11  Make people buy PRE-BIRTH INSURANCE.

It would
A) Financially Discourage bad mating partners.
B) Lighten the load on the rest of society.
C) Make the price of PIGD more rational.
D) Take the cost element away from abortion.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan   2006-11-19 15:45  

#10  Not only that, they should consider genetic testing for the most common recessive diseases. They should compare themselves with the Jewish experience, where organizations like Dor Yeshorim and nearly universal genetic testing have cut down the incidence of Tay-Sachs and Niemann-Pick to nearly zero.

They won't, though, because it's

  1. Done by Jews, and

  2. Cuts down on fertility.

Posted by: Eric Jablow   2006-11-19 14:43  

#9  like my family always says - if you're poking a cousin, use birth control



well, it's not like a motto or Coat of Arms or anything...jeesh
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-19 14:22  

#8  Recessive genetic illness is one of the main reasons for admission to the city's children's hospital. But, because cousin marriage has such a long history, raising these risks is sometimes interpreted as a challenge to the community's culture.

Cousin marriage predominant throughout the culture, I'm sticking with my theory that endemic psychosis is at work in many muslims.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412   2006-11-19 14:19  

#7  great graphic LOL!
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-19 14:11  

#6  Debieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: Shipman   2006-11-19 13:42  

#5  Ooops. Didn't mean to use the Golda tag on this one.
Posted by: gromgoru   2006-11-19 10:44  

#4  Fatwa in 5..4..
Posted by: Golda Meir   2006-11-19 10:43  

#3  My daughter could marry my nephew - would really cut down the guest list, since my sister married my wife's brother. "You might be a redneck if ... your family tree don't branch."
Posted by: Glenmore   2006-11-19 10:09  

#2  It's good to see this issue finally come up in public discourse.
Posted by: Parabellum   2006-11-19 09:46  

#1  She could marry her brother. Then she could say, "Family events are really nice because my parents and Farooq's parents are really close to each other."
Posted by: KBK   2006-11-19 09:25  

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