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Iraq
McGovern wants the new Democratic majority to force a U.S. withdrawal
2006-11-14
McGovern wants the new Democratic majority in Congress to force a U.S. withdrawal by June 2007. Such a precipitous “cut and run” policy has obviously given the aging activist a flashback to his July 14, 1972, speech accepting the Democratic nomination. In it, he called for an “immediate and complete withdrawal” from Vietnam, making that the central issue of the campaign. He then suffered a humiliating drubbing by a 61-38 percent margin, losing 49 states. As McGovern himself once put it, “I opened the doors of the Democratic Party, and 20 million people walked out.”

On one point, however, he is correct. There are similarities on the left-wing of the Democratic Party from Vietnam, through the Central American wars of the 1980s, to Iraq today. McGovern is not the only reminder of this disgraceful history. Daniel Ortega, the former Sandinista dictator, was elected president of Nicaragua on November 5. In his victory speech, Ortega thanked his leftist “brothers” Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and Fidel Castro in Cuba. Castro praised Ortega, whose armed movement was one of several Castro (with Soviet backing) had supported in the 1980s, saying his election “fills our people with joy, at the same time filling the terrorist and genocidal government of the United States with opprobrium.” For his part, Ortega talked of the Iraq War and how the new Democratic majority in the U.S. Congress should force America to “pull its troops out of that country.”

Ortega knows the power of Congress to help foreign thugs like himself by constraining American actions. Starting in 1982, Democratic Rep. Edward Boland sponsored measures adopted by Congress to prohibit the Reagan administration from providing military support “for the purpose of overthrowing the Government of Nicaragua,” then a Marxist junta led by Ortega. There were loopholes in the law, which the National Security Council exploited to continue aiding the anti-Communist Contra rebels. President Ronald Reagan called Ortega's regime “one of the world's principal refuges for international terrorists” and a “partner of Iran, Libya, North Korea, and Cuba.”
Posted by:GolfBravoUSMC

#24  Lol, Joe - the www.weresorry.com site is gone / DOM available, if'n they're interested...
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 22:59  

#23  "Had to lose to validate the leftist cause" > post 9-11, only the most successful of MULTIPLE PLANNED ATTACKS AGZ THE WTC, SOUTH VIETNAM = HYPER-POWER AMERICA. AMERICA MUST RETREAT WORLDWIDE, NOT JUST FROM THE ME. The lives, families, way-of-life, + communities of ALL AMERICANS REGARDLESS OF BELIEFS is now at risk just becuz the Failed-Angry Left needs to "save face" + doesn't wanna admit to making any mistakes/probs > you know, HUMANISM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-11-14 22:57  

#22  Frank: "fries - extra-crispy"... Insider stuff, cool, heh. 8-)
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 22:54  

#21  MUDVILLE GAZETTE logo > "Good people can sleep soundly at night becuz ROUGH/BAD MEN ARE READY TO PROTECT THEM + DO BATTLE ON THEIR BEHALF". In Guam + Asia, everyone knew that Rough/Bad Guy was "POWER-THAT-ISN'T-USED-ISN'T-POWER" POTUS NIXON. Despite the chaos over Vietnam, Nixon kept the stagflating, over-subsidized, "Democrat" US economy from imploding/collapsing + propagated US power-influence everywhere around the world. WHen Nixon left due to WATERGATE, even the Commies knew SOUTH VIETNAM = SE ASIA was just so much WALKING DEAD-MEAT. America didn't learn until after the fall of Saigon that America was actually winning/won the war.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-11-14 22:46  

#20  from vietnam?
Posted by: Hupish Elmunter7746   2006-11-14 22:27  

#19  a double-double, animal style and an order of fries - extra-crispy... it's not on the menu, but they know what it means
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-14 22:16  

#18  Christ. When's Mike Dukakis coming back from bolivian to add his two cents?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-11-14 21:58  

#17  Frank, I'm headed out to In 'n Out in a few, want anything?

Lol.
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 21:38  

#16  Heh, check out Wiki's 1972 election page...
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 20:43  

#15  lol - I have no life....
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-14 20:38  

#14  Lol, Frank. Once again, you prove yer too fast for me...
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 20:37  

#13  Shoot AP even I voted for Nixon, I was pretty left at the time but McGovern was a straight up loser, hands down.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-11-14 20:37  

#12  Yep - me too.

I dunno if McGoofy was invited or foisted himself into the smugfest, lol. Never been on the winning side, before, has he? Prolly some old burnout thought it would be a really good idea. One acid trip too many, mebbe, lol.
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 20:36  

#11  And now this is all they have in the bag?

I'm tired of these snide references to Pelosi...not
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-14 20:34  

#10  .com---I remember the election. The Left pushed McGovern with all they got. Like they lit off a Saturn V booster and all they got was a fizzling bottle rocket. It was pathetic. And now this is all they have in the bag?
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-11-14 20:31  

#9  Heh, AP. Izzat a sly Dumb & Dumber reference?

Somehow I missed seeing that flic, but I remember the fuzzy Winnebago, or whatever it was...
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 20:21  

#8  Stuck in the 60's. It's gettin' purdy crowded, heh.
Posted by: .com   2006-11-14 20:19  

#7  From Wikipedia:

In the general election, the McGovern/Shriver ticket suffered a 60%–38% defeat to Nixon — at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with Electoral College totals of 520 to 17. McGovern's two electoral vote victories came in Massachusetts and the District of Columbia; McGovern failed to win his home state of South Dakota.

So the Dems are raising the dead to further their cause. Great strategy. Our only saving grace is that the Dems are more stupid than the Republicans. This country has at least a fighting chance. I feel better now.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-11-14 20:19  

#6  3dc - an exorcism involving a priest and a bible drives out evil spirits. Might work on the far left too.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-11-14 19:22  

#5  Cause it worked out so well for the South Vietnamese ('Boat people') and the Cambodians ('Killing Fields').
Posted by: DMFD   2006-11-14 19:20  

#4  I forget - is it mirrors or silver bullets to keep vampires away? (Yes a know a wood stake to the heart kills them)

So, if its a silver bullet (or is that werewolves) then McGovern and his crowd need to be doused with Coors Beers.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-11-14 19:13  

#3  Not. Gonna. Happen.

He seems to forget there's a supporter of winning the war and against retreat named Lieberman that holds the balance of power.

Plus a Senator from Va named Webb who once said he loathed McGovern and others for betrayign him and his marinesi n Vietnam.

Posted by: OldSpook   2006-11-14 18:13  

#2  Like we give a flying fuk what McGovern has to say. The man has been brain dead for over half a century.
Posted by: Icerigger   2006-11-14 13:44  

#1  And if anyone knows about retreat, it's McGovern.
Posted by: badanov   2006-11-14 13:05  

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