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| Knesset Storm: Deputy DM Notes "Cultural" Differences w/ Arabs |
| 2006-11-14 |
| Deputy Defense Minister Sneh (Labor) evoked a storm of protest from Arab MKs by saying, "If we kill civilians, we accept blame, but when you kill civilians, you take credit; it's a cultural thing." Yesterday's stormy Knesset session began when Arab MK Honeh Soueid (Hadash) delivered a speech, harshly condemning Israel for what he constantly called the "massacre and slaughter" of 20 Arabs in Beit Hanoun last week. The incident occurred when IDF artillery fire designed to thwart ongoing Kassam rocket fire in Gaza accidentally hit a residential building. Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh then took the stand, beginning by thanking MK Soueid "for bringing up the issue so that I can straighten out the story accurately." Excerpts from the session: Soueid: People were killed and you want to be accurate...? Sneh: You think that if you interrupt me, I won't say what I want to say? ... I can promise you one thing: You won't like 90% of what I have to say... Why did we start the military offensive in Beit Hanoun? To protect the citizens of Israel, to attack those who fire Kassams and who store up war material to use it against us. This was the objective; there is nothing more legitimate than that. Arab MK Muhammed Barakeh: Little children [who were killed] are terrorists?! [screaming wildly] It's a shame and a disgrace! [continues to scream out at Sneh] MK Moshe Sharoni [Pensioners Party]: You just want to get your picture in Al Jazeera. Barakeh: Shut your mouth, stupid! [more screaming, Barakeh is finally ordered to leave by Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik] Barakeh to Sharoni: Shut your mouth! Sharoni [in Arabic, apparently a bit taken aback by Barakeh's furious hostility]: Out! Out! [This exchange is repeated several times, until finally Barakeh is taken out, while continuing to yell] Speaker Itzik [with a sigh]: Then they talk about the 'image of the Knesset' and that we 'have to come towards...' You heard [that exchange], MK Gal'on [of the radical left-wing Meretz party]? MK Gal'on: I didn't see you 'come towards' when Barakeh was talking... Itzik: Oh, really? OK, OK... Deputy Minister Sneh, please continue. [Arab MK Ahmed Tibi starts screaming...] Deputy Minister Sneh resumes speaking: "On Nov. 7, from an orchard on the outskirts of Beit Hanoun, rockets were fired towards Ashkelon. On the next morning, we received warning that it would happen again, and therefore two artillery volleys were fired [by the IDF] to that spot. As a result of a technical fault in the second volley, tens of innocent people were hit. We see this as a grave issue, a catastrophe, and a failure. I assume that those who fired the rocket on Ashkelon, if they would have hit dozens of innocent people, they would have seen it as a success. MK Tibi screams: You're just clearing yourself! [unintelligible] Sneh: No, no, Tibi - that's the difference of our cultures; that's the whole thing; that's the difference in our values. [Tibi and other Arab MKs start yelling wildly] Sneh: I promised you that you wouldn't like what I had to say. ... You cannot evade the point that when we hit civilians, we see it as a failure, but those who shoot at us see it as a success; that's the difference, you cannot evade that! [more screaming] I came to speak here in order to respond [to the charges of slaughter] and there is a limit to what we are willing to hear. [Tibi and others keep screaming] Sneh: ...After the extent of the catastrophe became known, we enacted a series of urgent humanitarian measures. The worst of the injured were taken to hospitals in Israel, and even though it was a battle zone, we allowed in trucks of medical supplies, we opened the Rafah crossing, and we did whatever possible to alleviate the unjustified suffering of these people. Tibi: And then these Palestinians didn't even say thank you, what nerve of them! Sneh: We didn't expect a thank you, we did what we thought we had to do. [more interruptions] Sneh: We didn't expect a thank you, I don't think we even deserved it. I think that we were responsible militarily, and we did what we had to do. [Tibi continues screaming, Speaker Itzik threatens to remove him] Sneh: Now that I have said what I wanted to say regarding military responsibility, I will discuss the moral responsibility. [raising his voice] Those who turned Gaza into a launching ground of Kassam rockets against a civilian populace, are responsible for those who were killed. Last September, we left Gaza, and we didn't leave a single thing - not a house or even a guard booth. What justification is there for what you are doing?! [Quiet] Why are the Rafah and Karni crossings half-closed?! Because the people sent by the terror organizations always want to blow up these places, the arteries that provide life to Gaza! They build a 600-meter tunnel - what are they thinking when they dig them?! Who will benefit if they blow up the Karni Crossing and Israelis and Palestinians are killed? And then later they'll complain that there's no milk or flour... What are they thinking? [quiet] Who destroyed Erez [Industrial Zone], where 5,000 Palestinians worked and made a living? Who destroyed it? The terrorists! More at the link |
| Posted by:6 |
| #15 yeah, but they sell a helluva lot of Hostage Beheading™ DVDs in the Arab world. That's gotta say something, right? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-11-14 17:35 |
| #14 I think that need saying more JFM. There are more books translated to Spanish in one year than in Arabic since Gutenberg There amore books sold in Israel than in the whole Arab world (at least if we put away the Koran). Do I need to provide more examples? |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-11-14 17:13 |
| #13 Sorry. I didn't mean to insult Fred. :D |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2006-11-14 16:36 |
| #12 DV! How dare you! Take that back right now! You have just insulted knuckle dragging barbarians everywhere. |
| Posted by: Broadhead6 2006-11-14 16:09 |
| #11 Fixed. |
| Posted by: Fred 2006-11-14 13:05 |
| #10 If I were an Arab MK, I would be deeply offended in that "you": ...when you kill civilians, you take credit That is, I would point out that we Arab Israelis were not the terrorists, were not the ones firing rockets. But that didn't seem to be their concern. Huh. More at the link Errr, link? |
| Posted by: Angie Schultz 2006-11-14 12:48 |
| #9 And those are the educated muzzies. This is so obvious. Why is it that most of the civilized world is not aware of the coming clash ? I understand the trick of the macaca media, but why ? Why participate in this bullshit screen to hide the truth of Islam from the world ? What the phalk is there to gain ? If they believed the pen as mightier than the sword, then why not write to change the minds of the muzzie lunatics ? But no, they use their pens to interfere with the use of the sword, and in the big ending, the sword will make the pens bleed. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-11-14 12:41 |
| #8 Sneh demonstrated moral clarity. The Arab MKs either don't understand it, don't have it, or don't want it. Whichever it is, they're despicable. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-14 10:50 |
| #7 Ditto to JFM. More proof that the Arabs are little more than knuckle dragging barbarians with no culture and morals. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2006-11-14 10:05 |
| #6 I think that need saying more JFM. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2006-11-14 09:50 |
| #5 There are cultural differnces: Jews have a culture. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-11-14 09:24 |
| #4 There are cultural differnces: Jews have a culture. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-11-14 09:24 |
| #3 There are cultural differnces: Jews have a culture. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-11-14 09:24 |
| #2 Arab MKs...those damn Zionists...it's a plot to allow ...wildly screaming ...er ..nevermind |
| Posted by: Frank G 2006-11-14 08:32 |
| #1 When I read this, I think there is still hope for Israel. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2006-11-14 08:19 |