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US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
2006-11-14
WASHINGTON (AP) - Immigrants arrested in the United States may be held indefinitely on suspicion of terrorism and may not challenge their imprisonment in civilian courts, the Bush administration said Monday, opening a new legal front in the fight over the rights of detainees.

In court documents filed with the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., the Justice Department said a new anti-terrorism law being used to hold detainees in Guantanamo Bay also applies to foreigners captured and held in the United States.

Ali Saleh Kahlah Al-Marri, a citizen of Qatar, was arrested in 2001 while studying in the United States. He has been labeled an ``enemy combatant,'' a designation that, under a law signed last month, strips foreigners of the right to challenge their detention in federal courts.

That law is being used to argue the Guantanamo Bay cases, but Al-Marri represents the first detainee inside the United States to come under the new law. Aliens normally have the right to contest their imprisonment, such as when they are arrested on immigration violations or for other crimes. ``It's pretty stunning that any alien living in the United States can be denied this right,'' said Jonathan Hafetz, an attorney for Al-Marri. ``It means any non-citizen, and there are millions of them, can be whisked off at night and be put in detention.''
That's one of the protections of being a citizen -- you enjoy the rights of the Constitution. We're magnanimous enough to extend those protections to permanent residents and certain other non-citizens, but we're not obligated to do so.
The new law says that enemy combatants will be tried before military commissions, not a civilian judge or jury, and establishes different rules of evidence in the cases. It also prohibits detainees from challenging their detention in civilian court.

In a separate court filing in Washington on Monday, the Justice Department defended that law as constitutional and necessary. Government attorneys said foreign fighters arrested as part of an overseas military action have no constitutional rights and are being afforded more legal rights than ever.

In its short filing in the Al-Marri case, however, the Justice Department doesn't mention that Al-Marri is being held at a military prison in South Carolina - a fact that his attorneys say affords him the same rights as anyone else being held in the United States.
The government says differently; but we'll see what the Supremes say.
The Justice Department noted only that the new law applies to all enemy combatants ``regardless of the location of the detention.'' The Bush administration maintains that al-Marri is an al-Qaida sleeper agent. The Defense Department ordered a review of Al-Marri's status as an enemy combatant be conducted if, as requested, the case is thrown out of court.
Posted by:Steve White

#10  Qatar has many other attributes worth emulating. Maybe we should look into them.

Name a few or shut up. Otherwise, this is simply a straw man argument.

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2006-11-14 18:28  

#9  Great tactic. Get it out there. Let the bitching and moaning begin. After a few months of upchucking by Dummocrats, it may slip through anywhoo.
Posted by: SpecOp35   2006-11-14 18:25  

#8  Gulags. How cool.

I'm sure Qatar would extend me full rights of citizenship if I were picked up over there, right?

Qatar has many other attributes worth emulating. Maybe we should look into them.
Posted by: Uloluth Chinetch5315   2006-11-14 17:01  

#7  Al-Marri attended the same university I did

If your uni had a 'militant wing' in the same way as Hamas, for example, then you all could have whacked him yourselves. Not that I'm advocating such behaviour since that isn't the way we do things here. I'm just pointing out the interesting and unique cultural differences between Us and Them.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-11-14 16:17  

#6  He should have been executed a long time ago.

Correct. And the Saudi diplomat mission expelled along with the witch they granted diplomatic impunity.
Posted by: Excalibur   2006-11-14 11:24  

#5  I'm sure Qatar would extend me full rights of citizenship if I were picked up over there, right?
Posted by: mojo   2006-11-14 11:04  

#4  Watch the Donks and ACLU whine and moan about this scumbags rights. Bush should continue to let them prove themselves unserious about protecting American citizens
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-14 08:51  

#3  Al-Marri attended the same university I did. He came back in 2000 or 2001 for "graduate work" that consisted of credit card fraud, a handful of classes, and collecting cash to hand out to the next al'Qaeda operation.

He should have been executed a long time ago.

BTW -- the Saudis produced an extra set of documentation to get his wife out of the US, despite her being subpoenaed for the trial.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-11-14 06:55  

#2  Our hand is forced: national security over some personal freedoms. Blame the enemy.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-11-14 00:46  

#1  HAFETZ's comments are hilarious > might as well go full-fledged SHARPTONIAN ala KATRINA-GATE and fully declare that NON-LEGAL ALIENS-CITIZENS IN AMERICA HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO LIVE OFF AND DEPEND FOREVER ON THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PAID FOR BY DE FACTO US CITIZENS AND LEGAL RESIDENTS, AND TO DO SO WITHOUT HAVING TO DECLARE THEIR CITIZENSHIP OR LOYALTY TO AMERICA OR AMER LAWS. BLACK AMERS have the right to stay on Govt-subsidized public assistance forever whether they qualify or not, so why not illeeeeeeegaaawls. And once again, the Left fails to demand that US citizens have the same rights in other nations. SO WHOM HERE IN RANTBURG OR AMERICA = AMERIKA, the WORLD-MIGHTY USSA = WEAK ANTI-SOVEREIGN AMER IKAN SSR/USR, IS IN FAVOR OF MAKING SHARPTONISM/KATRINISM A DE FACTO AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION??? LAW ABIDERS PAY FOR EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING, NON-LAW ABIDERS DON'T HAVE TO DO OR PAY JACKSHIT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-11-14 00:25  

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