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CA College Bans Pledge of Allegiance
2006-11-10
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Student leaders at a California college have touched off a furor by banning the Pledge of Allegiance at their meetings, saying they see no reason to publicly swear loyalty to God and the U.S. government.
Wonder if any of these folks have federal college loans outstanding?
The move by Orange Coast College student trustees, the latest clash over patriotism and religion in American schools, has infuriated some of their classmates -- prompting one young woman to loudly recite the pledge in front of the board on Wednesday night in defiance of the rule.

"America is the one thing I'm passionate about and I can't let them take that away from me," 18-year-old political science major Christine Zoldos told Reuters. "The fact that they have enough power to ban one of the most valued traditions in America is just horrible," Zoldos said, adding she would attend every board meeting to salute the flag.
Cool! Let's see 'em try to deny her her civil and Constitutional rights (ACLU, hello? Hello?)
The move was lead by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets and said they do not believe in publicly swearing an oath to the American flag and government at their school. One student trustee voted against the measure, which does not apply to other student groups or campus meetings.
Viva La Revolutcione, eh, guys? Now, let's talk about those student loans...
The ban follows a 2002 ruling by a federal appeals court ...
That'd be the 9th Circus Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco; also known as the most overturned appeals court in the federal system
... in San Francisco that said forcing school children to recite the pledge was unconstitutional because of the phrase "under God." The U.S. Supreme Court struck down the ruling on procedural grounds but left the door open for another challenge.

"That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Talk about revisionist history! Hey, kid! Your ideology and atheism is offensive to me and about 50% of the people in this country. Now, let's talk about those student loans.
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
Okay, how about that whole freedom thing that you idiots had handed to you on a silver platter? Have you done anything, anything at all to earn that? Nope, didn;t think so. Now, let's talk about those student loans...
Posted by:FOTSGreg

#8  "That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
Martha Parham, a spokeswoman for the Coast Community College District, said her office had no standing on the student board and took no position on the flag salute ban.
"If their personal belief is that they don't want to say the Pledge of Allegiance, the district certainly isn't going to dictate what they do," she said.”

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Posted by: JustAboutEnough   2006-11-10 13:31  

#7  The move was lead by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets and said they do not believe in publicly swearing an oath to the American flag and government at their school.

I bet they will, however, be quite willing to accept federal student loans to matriculate at this world renowned institute of higher learning.
If I could find the matchbook their entrance application is printed on, I might try drawing the pirate to see if I could get in.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-11-10 09:30  

#6  Poseurs. Colleges and universities are the factories that produce the cogs of the vast capitalist conspiracy. If these punks really wanted to stick it to The Man, they would volunteer to impart the vast knowledge and wisdom of their 19 years to the oppressed peoples of the Congo or become harem eunuchs in Saudi.
Posted by: ed   2006-11-10 08:17  

#5  "That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."

Let's talk about the millions dead at the hands of your ideology, hmmm?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-11-10 08:09  

#4  It's three Che wannabes who got themselves elected on this platform. I'm glad that some of their classmates are willing to stand openly against such childish posturing. After all, it's easy enough for atheists just not to say the "under God" phrase, and there is a long history of religious socialists. In fact, religious communism has a long history in Christianity -- both amongst the heretical sects and mainstream communities of monks and nuns. It's a good thing these student leaders are still in school; there remains the possibility they'll be exposed to the information they need to think clearly.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-11-10 08:02  

#3  I see the Future Journalists of America, Orange Coast College Chapter have already begun practicing their craft.
Posted by: ed   2006-11-10 07:48  

#2  was directly designed to destroy my ideology

Said ideology killed well over 100 000 000 men, women and children all over the world, including several genocides/democides, one of whom killed twice as many people as the nazi genocide of jews... and re-introduced mass slavery and forced labor into the Western world... and held literally billions in political oppression... and was an expert user and sponsor of terror, subversion, having the mandate to cheat, lie, obsfucate, invert values, pretend and manipulate, in the name of Progress... so much that it is still slowing killing off western civilization as we speak.

No wonder he wishes to have it preserved.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-11-10 07:47  

#1  three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets and said they do not believe in publicly swearing an oath to the American flag and government at their school.

so it's 3 Che wanna-be's...not the entire school
Posted by: Frank G   2006-11-10 06:51  

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