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Hirsi Ali: 2 possible scenarios outline future of European Muslims
2006-10-23
Europe should recognise that tolerating oppressive cultures and encouraging more mass migration from Islamic countries often hurts precisely the people it seeks to help, according to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former Dutch legislator from Somalia, who now lives in the US, where she is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

In an article published by the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, she outlines two scenarios for the future of Muslims settled in Europe. According to the worst-case scenario, the monopoly of force that is now exclusive to states will be challenged by armed subgroups. European societies will be divided along ethnic and religious lines. The education system will not succeed in grooming the youth to believe in a shared past, let alone a shared future. The European states will find themselves limiting civil liberties. Europeans will come to accept the de facto implementation of Sharia law in certain neighbourhoods and even cities. The exploitation of the weak, women and children will be commonplace. Those who can afford to emigrate will do so. Instead of an ever-growing union in Europe, future generations may witness an ever-disintegrating one.

The controversial Dutch-Somalian who has been declared outside the pale of Islam by some clerics, writes that in a best-case scenario, Europeans will opt for controlled or planned immigration. The European Union will introduce quotas such as those in the US, based on the selection of migrants who are beneficial to the economy. The current system in most European countries is designed to attract the highest number of people with truly heartbreaking stories, not the highest number of people who are willing and able to adapt to the European society. An intervention, sometimes proactive, will be made in Europe’s neighbouring states or in failed states with conditions that force people to migrate in large numbers. This plan will consist of aid, trade, diplomatic pressure and military intervention, if necessary, something that is taboo in Europe at the moment. Currently, the EU selects the countries it wants to aid based on lists provided by the World Bank or the United Nations. The criteria for aid are based on such vague notions as the 100 poorest countries or countries with good governance or some other “goody-goody” sounding reason. That should change, she suggests.

She writes, “In a best-case scenario, the EU will implement an assimilation programme guided by the lessons learned from our failed attempts at multiculturalism. It will acknowledge that the basic tenets of Islam are a major obstacle to integration. In practice, Muslims will continue to enjoy religious freedom, as long as exercising that precious right does not infringe upon the freedoms of others, including daughters and wives. In a best-case scenario, EU policymakers will invest in girls and women, protect them from violence and punish those who try to limit their freedoms. Those policymakers will reform the welfare state; regulations pertaining to the hiring and firing of employees will be made more flexible, making it easier for migrants to enter the labour market … A misguided vision brought Europe to its current predicament; an idealistic vision convinced of the inherent superiority of enlightened values over the values of oppressive cultures, a vision steeped in individual rights, the rule of law and the equality of men and women can help guide Europe out of it.”
Posted by:Fred

#11  Skidmark. How appropriate a nym. Interesting that you see yourself as a brown stain in the underwear of life.

Cheers!

Posted by: NoBeards   2006-10-23 10:11  

#10  I see the worst case, and most likely is the complete breakdown of western europe, much like Bosnia. Decades long bloody civil wars and ethnic cleansing.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-10-23 11:53  

#9  
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Posted by: NoBeards   2006-10-23 10:11  

#8  To add to Trailing Wife's point: Hirsi Ali has a difficult time as a member of parliament trying to convince the Dutch to listen to her and does what she can under threat of death. What possible chance she would have had in Somalia is beyond me.
Posted by: Flea   2006-10-23 08:42  

#7  Skidmark, Ms. Ali was a girl married to a cousin against her will in Somalia. She fled to the West, eventually ending up in Holland -- I'm under the impression that she was about 21 when she arrived. Besides -- Somalia??? How is a girl/young woman to significantly change anything there when her husband and father were satisfied with the status quo? As for the Netherlands, after she was elected to the national legislature, Minister of Immigration(?) Verdonk (the interesting woman who is now against allowing veils for women) announced that Ms.Ali was in the country illegally, forcing her to resign and leave. This after Ms. Ali's neighbors insisted she be evicted from her apartment because her presence put them at risk of attack. The Dutch hid my mother and her family from the Nazis in WWII, but they've degenerated a bit since then, it seems.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-10-23 07:58  

#6  Skidmark,
She had to living in protective custody on a Dutch military base for the last two years because of the death threats she received for criticizing the religion of peace. We need people like her that come from within the Islamic community and are willing to publicly reject the medieval view point of the religion of peace.
Posted by: Dan Canaveral   2006-10-23 06:24  

#5  Easy enough to run away, then be critical I guess.
Wonder why she didn't try to reform Somalia?
Posted by: Skidmark   2006-10-23 06:04  

#4  I respectably disagree. We should support Middle East and North African countries that repress jihadism. Many terrorists who escape to Europe, do so to secure financing for homeland terror. We don't need scum like that, and I could care less what governments do to them, as long as the governments don't adopt a anti West agenda. As I write, the UK is polluted with wannabe provisional government forces who have benefitted from UK harborage.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550   2006-10-23 02:27  

#3  Sorry, can't get past the looks (yum)
Posted by: Captain America   2006-10-23 01:10  

#2  As myself + various other Netter had tried to argue over the years - the SECULARISTS, GOVERNMENTISTS, ATHEISTS + DIALECTICISTS, etc are and will have a field day under the label of the WOT. To the Left andor to the Right, Top to Down, and vices versa, their ideos appear or surreally seem to be "justified". The burden falls on honest people to make things right = protect what is right, whether honest people had anything to anything or not. PCorrectness has become so acute, sensitive, and over-relied upon Voter + Politicos, etal are afraid to make any decision or action without knowing the survey poll of the nano-moment, FEARS IN FAVOR OF NON-ACTION + NON-DECISION + PERVASIVE WAFFLE-ISM WHICH ONLY SERVES/HELPS OUR ENEMIES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-10-23 00:56  

#1  Given the history of Europe, and the total moral depravity of it's ruling "elites", I wouldn't bet a nickel on the 'best-case scenario.'
Posted by: PBMcL   2006-10-23 00:33  

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