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Afghanistan
Perv and I know Mullah Omar is in Pakistan: Karzai
2006-09-23
Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Friday said that Taliban leader Mullah Omar and Al Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden were both in Pakistan, charging that Islamabad’s support of militants had made Afghanistan unstable, while playing down reports that the Taliban was gaining strength inside his country. Addressing the US-based Council on Foreign Relations, Karzai said that the Taliban leader was “for sure” in Pakistan, adding that Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf “knows it and I know it . . . He is truly there”.
So is Hek, by the way. During the war against the Sovs, he spent most of his timesafe in Pak, canoodling with Qazi and plotting against Masood.
On the whereabouts of Bin Laden, Karzai said: “If I told you he was in Pakistan, President Musharraf, my friend, would be mad at me. But if I said he was in Afghanistan, that would not be true.”
One day those lies are gonna catch up with Perv, and then he'll be no more.
In a veiled reference to Musharraf and his alleged support of militants, Karzai said that some in the region used extremists to maintain political power. “Some of these regimes are definitely using extremism as an instrument of policy, and that is why Afghanistan has suffered.” He equated cooperating with terrorists to “trying to train a snake against somebody else”. “You cannot train a snake. It will come and bite you.”
Perv's not even trying to train his snakes. He's juggling them.
Playing down the Taliban-led insurgency that aims to topple his US-backed government, the Afghan president noted that the group was targeting teachers and children as well as clinics and schools. “Is that strength? No. Is it popular base? No.” He said that his government had been unable to prevent the Taliban from committing acts of terrorism due to inadequate police and military structures, adding that the country had been weakened from years of war.
I've come to a number of conclusions on the mechanics of terrorism in the past year or so. One of them is that seeing only two main Islamic movements doesn't cover the facts.

It's self-evidently true that Iran represents the Shia axis of terrorism. That's a problem that's not going to recede until Qom is rubble and all the lamp posts in Iran are adorned with dangling ayatollahs.

Al-Qaeda is a major Sunni axis. It's run by Sunnis and funded by Soddies, and it has pretensions to establishing a world-wide Islamic caliphate. There are many tendrils there to be chased down, financing to be shut down, and a crunchy outer coating of decoys and sympathizers to be stripped away before we get to the chewy center of the Islamic high command, which is not located in Pakistan, but in Soddy Arabia, possibly in Riyadh but more likely in Asir.

The third axis of terrorism in the world is Pakistan. It's not rogue elements of the ISI or illiterate, inbred hillbillies from the Great Wazoo, but the Pak government itself. Terrorism is a tactic and its use is a matter of government policy. No other interpretation holds water.

Pakistan is a nation of little accomplishment on the international stage. Its army has never won a war. Its economy is primitive and without international charity it would collapse. It was founded on Islam and the Islam it's adopted is a particularly malevolent strain, with the Deobandis and the Wahhabis competing to see which can outdo the other in the realm of ostentatiously ferocious piety. The government exhibits a love of dissimulation, Great Gaming, and ill-advised puffery that would have Kipling hooting in recognition as all of his villains and precious few of his heroes parade across the political stage.

Pak's ultimate goal is a Muslim Indian empire, stretching from the Burmese to the Persian borders, ruled by Punjabis from Islamabad. Qazi's articulated this vision, as has Hafiz Saeed. They'll no doubt argue over who gets the big turban when the subcontinental caliphate is finally established, but that's what they're working toward. Hafiz Saeed's Lashkar-e-Taiba is a tool of the Pakistani state. So is Hizbul Mujaheddin, owned and remotely operated by Qazi. So is Jaish-e-Muhammad. They are used to torment India, to attempt to keep it unstable, to keep the turbans stirred up. Kashmir is a tool to that end, a problem festering since 1947, intentionally designed to permit no solution. But even if there were a magical solution to the Kashmir problem tomorrow, LeT, JeM and whatever other proxy brigades were raised would continue their operations, booming trains in Mumbai and fostering riots in Gujarat, the ultimate intention being to subvert New Delhi.

The Talibs on the western Pak border are precisely the same thing as the Kashmiri Krazed Killer Korps. They have the same weapons, the same tactics, the same ideology, and they train in the same camps. Islamabad engages in the same pattern of pious denial in both cases, the difference being that Fazl doesn't seem to be involved in Kashmir, nor Hafiz Saeed in Afghanistan.

Karzai knows all this. The Pandjir Valley guys had their own intel back in the day, and presumably it's formed the basis of the national intel service. The Dari-speaking portion of Afghanistan is not stoopid, nor even as primitive as the Pashto-speaking portion.

The U.S. government knows all this as well. If we can't miss it here at Rantburg, confined as we are to open source, it's doubtful they're going to miss it at Fort Meade or at Langley or at Bolling AFB. In the past year our relations with Pak have become more brittle as less and less of their story gets bought. The eye-rolling on the part of our military and diplo people becomes more obvious, less restrained, the mockery less subtle. At some point we've admitted that we know at the morning policy briefing, though not publicly. I don't think Perv realizes it yet, but it's guiding policy. That policy should by now include causing Pak to collapse into its mutually antagonistic component parts, with the ultimate goal of isolating and maybe even destroying the Punjabi megalomaniacs.

Too bad about old Akbar Bugti, but only because he might have had some utility left in him. As far as I'm concerned, they're all expendable.
Posted by:Fred

#17  We'll know the truth soon, Perv has finished his book!

PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF: I would like to -- I am launching my book on the 25th, and I am honor-bound to Simon and Schuster not to comment on the book before that day. (Laughter.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: In other words, buy the book, is what he's saying. (Laughter.)
Posted by: SwissTex   2006-09-23 20:01  

#16  Well, I've read some stuff anyway, Zenster dear. And much of it I had the pleasure of learning here. It's called Rantburg U for good reason.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-23 18:53  

#15  You are most welcome. It's always a pleasure to assist one so erudite as yourself, tw.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-23 18:36  

#14  Thank you, Zenster. That helps a great deal. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-23 17:49  

#13  
Posted by: john   2006-09-23 17:25  

#12  tw, this old article from Debkafile sheds some light on Asir

Bin Laden Is Back in Saudi Arabia - Is Working Closely with Baghdad
October 19, 2002, 1:58 PM (GMT+02:00)

The Al Murrah, renowned as first rate field scouts, are among the fiercest elements of the extremist Muslim Wahabi sect, Saudi ArabiaÂ’s state religion, and number some of Bin LadenÂ’s most fervent followers. Without friends in the Al Murrah, this empty wasteland is impassable and uninhabitable.

The second bin Laden sighting took place in the Najran, a region lying across the frontier between the south Saudi province of Asir and Yemen. Here, he was observed on Saudi Bani Yam Saudi tribal land opposite Oman on the fringes of the Empty Quarter. The Bani Yam are close allies of the neighboring Yemeni tribes of the Hadhramauth, the Saudi-born terroristÂ’s ancestral homeland.

In the Najran, Bin Laden is not only within reach of his Yemeni friends and kinsmen, but in a position to control and deploy the 700 al Qaeda fighters who escaped Afghanistan at the end of 2001 and early 2002 and set up base in the Asir province.

Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-23 16:57  

#11  the Islamic high command, which is not located in Pakistan, but in Soddy Arabia, possibly in Riyadh but more likely in Asir.

If you would be good enough to explain, Fred? Thank you!
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-09-23 16:43  

#10  Damn, best ever Fredmarks. Likely needs to be classified.
Posted by: 6   2006-09-23 16:38  

#9  I thought Patriots/ABM were part of the latest deal with India?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-09-23 14:59  

#8  One of Pakistan's biggest problems is that India has a HUGE army, air force, and navy - much larger, much better equipped, and much better trained. The only restraint upon India is that Pak has nukes. India doesn't want to lose Mumbai, Delhi, or any other major city. If we see India buying large quantities of PAC-3 missiles, we'll know the gloves are coming off.

One thing Fred didn't mention is the constant irritation in Bangladesh. This is essentially a "second front" in Pakistan's war against India. The current border war is an attempt to grab India's attention and direct it away from the ISI's involvement in the Mumbai bombing. I don't think it's working.

In any direct conflict between India and Pakistan, Pakistan loses. With US and NATO forces in Afghanistan and a hostile regime in Iran, Pakistan has nowhere to run.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-09-23 14:16  

#7  Thanks for the layout Fred.

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Hypothetical, If the three Queens of Terrorism [Perv-Land, Sod-Land A$$-Land] were decapped tomorrow naturally a power vacuum would result.

Sorta of a dilemma for us in the the West as the radical branches of Sunni & Shi'a "spirit" seems to be alive and robust amongst the Islamic flock. Who or what would fill the power vacuum in Islamabad for instance, India? USA? Afghanistan?

Perhaps the one of the best strategies we can exploit can be found within the dilemma itself.

Nurture the existing feuds between the many schisms within the radical elements of Islam, Deobandi vs Wahhabi vs radical Shia Muslim theocracy etc. so that they spend themselves attriting each other over the next few decades.

Posted by: RD   2006-09-23 13:58  

#6  Fred -- Would you consider expanding those comments into a book? We need it. It should be published simultaneously in the U.S. and India.
Posted by: Pagan Infidel   2006-09-23 11:08  

#5  Wow, great commentary, Fred, I agree completely. Karzai is getting hosed by his good friend Perv(ert).

Anyone who uses a White House press conference to pitch a book is an opportunist and a cheap hackster.
Posted by: Grolurt Hupising1286   2006-09-23 07:34  

#4  Recall that Powell, et al, went right over there and demanded to be shown where the stockpile was located.

Hadn't heard about this before. It's one of the few things that connects the dots to the threat of us bombing them back to the stone age. If we truly do know where their nuclear weapons are (aside from satellite or humint intelligence), then this is a huge strategic plus for us. It also leaves Pakistan wholly vulnerable to us, but I doubt I'll be losing any sleep over that.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-09-23 02:33  

#3  A very good summation. We've known alot of dirt on Pakland for many years. I don't know all the motivations as to why we haven't asskicked them yet, but, (1) we needed a local base to get a foothold in Afghanistan..when we'd been far better off bombing Pakis, (2) we didn't know as much as we needed to about their nukes. Recall that Powell, et al, went right over there and demanded to be shown where the stockpile was located. I'm sure we twisted Pervert's arm pretty tight to make him execute his 180 turn, knowing full well what a lying, cheating bastard he was/is. I think Perv's usefulness is nearing an end. It's just that we dread the next asswipe, who may be worse. Still, it's about time to yank on the Paki chain. BIGTIME.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-09-23 01:31  

#2  "a crunchy outer coating of decoys and sympathizers to be stripped away before we get to the chewy center of the Islamic high command"

Mmmmmmm ... crunchy decoys and sympathizers. Ooh, ooh, and a chewy center of Islamic high command ... argle bargle argle. Marge, I'm going to the store!!!
Posted by: Homer   2006-09-23 00:41  

#1  Nice summary, Fred. Hopefully the folks at CIA, DIA, etc., are stealing it for their weekly's.
Posted by: PBMcL   2006-09-23 00:29  

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