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| Carey backs Pope and issues warning on 'violent' Islam |
| 2006-09-20 |
| THE former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey of Clifton has issued his own challenge to “violent” Islam in a lecture in which he defends the Pope’s “extraordinarily effective and lucid” speech. Lord Carey said that Muslims must address “with great urgency” their religion’s association with violence. He made it clear that he believed the “clash of civilisations” endangering the world was not between Islamist extremists and the West, but with Islam as a whole. “We are living in dangerous and potentially cataclysmic times,” he said. “There will be no significant material and economic progress [in Muslim communities] until the Muslim mind is allowed to challenge the status quo of Muslim conventions and even their most cherished shibboleths.” Lord Carey, who as Archbishop of Canterbury became a pioneer in Christian-Muslim dialogue, himself quoted a contemporary political scientist, Samuel Huntington, who has said the world is witnessing a “clash of civilisations”. Arguing that Huntington’s thesis has some “validity”, Lord Carey quoted him as saying: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power.” Lord Carey went on to argue that a “deep-seated Westophobia” has developed in recent years in the Muslim world. Lord Carey, who has continued to work in interfaith collaboration since his retirement in 2002, said that the relationship between Islamic countries and the West was “the most dangerous, most important and potentially cataclysmic issue of our day.” He described the two civilisations as “polarised and uncomprehending” and said that the Danish cartoons controversy last March showed “two world views colliding in public space with no common point of reference”. He said the West had been largely responsible for “redrawing the map of the Middle East” and it was the “moral relativism of the West” that has outraged Muslim society. Most Muslims believe firmly that the invasion of Iraq is 2004 was solely about oil, he said. He went on to defend the Pope’s fundamental thesis, that reason and religious faith can be compatible. “The actual essay is an extraordinarily effective and lucid thesis exploring the weakness of secularism and the way that faith and reason go hand in hand,” he said. He said he agreed with his Muslim friends who claimed that true Islam is not a violent religion, but he wanted to know why Islam today had become associated with violence. “The Muslim world must address this matter with great urgency,” he said. Can someone explain how they let this guy go and got the Druid? |
| Posted by:Nimble Spemble |
| #13 Yei another Oliver Stone production of almost a Quiznos Sub Sandwich film. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2006-09-20 23:32 |
| #12 6, I think the whole "opposites attract" is true in some sort of twisted way. |
| Posted by: Thoth 2006-09-20 19:19 |
| #11 Kirk: Excuse me... Excuse me... I just wanted to ask a question. What does God need with a starship? Or the late Akbar Bugti on jihad: "What use do I have for a god that needs me to fight his battles?" |
| Posted by: john 2006-09-20 17:13 |
| #10 Can someone explain how they let this guy go and got the Druid? He was just as bad as the current ArchDruid - and worse in many ways - when he was ArchDruid, IMO. Now that he's cut loose he can talk a bit more freely. Heard anything about this from the current one? ... crickets ... |
| Posted by: xbalanke 2006-09-20 17:01 |
| #9 You got it Thoth. |
| Posted by: 6 2006-09-20 15:05 |
| #8 Or that the Koran is literally God's word and not subject to questioning or rational analysis. What sort of "god" would choose an unholy hole-ly man to transmit his message? If he came yesterday, no doubt, a read-only dvd would have been used, not a book. What's so great about any man written book? Only impressive sounding in a an age and scenario where 95% are illiterate and easily awed. Lord Carey dished it out nicely, bravo! Go dig a hole and hide, Rowan. |
| Posted by: Duh! 2006-09-20 12:57 |
| #7 Lord Carey said that Muslims must address “with great urgency” their religion’s association with violence. He made it clear that he believed the “clash of civilisations” endangering the world was not between Islamist extremists and the West, but with Islam as a whole. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power.” He described the two civilisations as “polarised and uncomprehending” and said that the Danish cartoons controversy last March showed “two world views colliding in public space with no common point of reference”. [golf clap] Why wasn't THIS GUY addressing the UN yesterday? |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-09-20 12:31 |
| #6 Or that the Koran is literally God's word and not subject to questioning or rational analysis. Kirk: Excuse me... Excuse me... I just wanted to ask a question. What does God need with a starship? |
| Posted by: Uleamp Slonter8657 2006-09-20 11:45 |
| #5 whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power. Reverse that..."People who are convinced in the inferiority of their culture, and are obsessed with hating the superiority of their power"... Who does that sound like? |
| Posted by: Thoth 2006-09-20 11:42 |
| #4 He said he agreed with his Muslim friends who claimed that true Islam is not a violent religion, So long as you ignore Mohammed, Mohammed's example, and the bulk of Muslim history. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2006-09-20 11:35 |
| #3 "Westophobia . . . " Turn the tables. Love it. |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2006-09-20 11:25 |
| #2 Their response is what the Pope said it was. Violence. Blowing shit up. Raging. Faster please. The more people see of what Islam really is, the less the MSM will be able to cover it up. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2006-09-20 11:18 |
| #1 Great ! Great ! We need more theologians coming forth to reinforce the Pope. Keep applying pressure to the mad dogs. Very soon, they will have no response, because there is no defense. |
| Posted by: SOP35/Rat 2006-09-20 11:06 |