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Home Front: Politix
NYC Mayor Suggests Paying Poor
2006-09-19
Welfare, by any other name, would smell just as bad...
NEW YORK (AP) -- Poor New Yorkers who make healthy choices - such as staying in school and regularly seeing the doctor - should be rewarded with cash to help break the cycle of poverty, Mayor Michael Bloomberg suggested Monday.

The idea, which has seen success in countries including Brazil and Mexico, developed out of an anti-poverty commission's report released Monday. The commission did not specifically propose using rewards but did suggest the city find innovative ways to help its 1.5 million poor lift themselves out of poverty.

The commission, headed by Time Warner's chief executive, Richard Parsons, and the president of the nonprofit group Harlem Children's Zone, Geoffrey Canada, said many New Yorkers are locked in a cycle of poverty in which built-in conditions trap them into failure. For example, those who fall behind on vaccinations and doctor checkups may suffer from poor health and struggle to keep jobs.

Paying modest rewards might help break those patterns, the mayor said.

"We want to reward those who have the initiative to go out and try to make their lives better, and if the system is stacked against them making their lives better, that's what we're trying to change," Bloomberg said.

His deputy mayor for health and human services, Linda Gibbs, served on the anti-poverty commission and will help guide its recommendations into policy. She said the reward details - such as amounts and qualifications - are still being studied. But she said the city is encouraged by the success of similar programs in other countries, where the benefits endure for years because they create behavior patterns.

New York officials say the cash rewards would not come from government funds. Gibbs said the administration wants to privately raise funds, beginning with about $24 million for programs that reward good behavior in education and health care.

In countries such as Mexico and Brazil, there has been widespread praise for World Bank-supported programs that give financial rewards to parents for sending their children to school and regular doctors' visits.

The City Council said Monday it will examine the commission's report and the administration's proposals. One question will be whether the success of those reward programs overseas could be repeated in America's biggest city.

"The idea of saying to people, 'Look, we want to help you do the right thing for yourself and your kids and we're going to incentivize it,' that's very realistic," said Bill de Blasio, chairman of the council's Committee on General Welfare. "I want to see the details, but I like the thinking."
Posted by:mcsegeek1

#12  I can see lots of 'poor' from Connecticut and New Jersey establishing so-called residency (list an address where their relatives live) and then double-dipping.
Posted by: Pappy   2006-09-19 21:10  

#11  Nanny statism at it's worst. Bloomberg's proposal is both stupid and condescending.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-09-19 19:54  

#10  #9: "New York officials say the cash rewards would not come from government funds."

That's true.

The government doesn't generate funds - it steals extorts them from taxpayers.

So we'll end up paying for it in the end.

May I suggest what you do with this dumb idea and your end, Mr. Mayor?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-09-19 19:22  

#9  "New York officials say the cash rewards would not come from government funds."

Good Luck!
Posted by: DepotGuy   2006-09-19 18:54  

#8  Mayor Bloomberg, I have some questions here...

1. If the "cycle of poverty" and the "cycle of violence" had a race, who do you think would win?

2. Are Brazil and Mexico now the economic model that the city will be following? Believe it or not, I've heard that poverty actually does exist down there. Are you aware of that?

3. Why is it that folks that actually do make the right choices in life are never offered rewards for it? All they're ever asked to do is pay for the rewards for the people who don't. why do you think that is?

4. Are all rich people crazy?

You can answer them ihn any order you want.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-09-19 12:26  

#7  I like this idea better: If you don't stay in school, we won't give your a welfare check.
Posted by: tabd   2006-09-19 11:35  

#6  ST - Fill out this form. It's pretty simple, really, just some checkboxes (e.g. race, ancestry, ehtnicity, gender, party affiliation, sexual orientation - the usual) to "classify" you correctly... You'll hear from us when we have "evaluated" it.

/Big Blue Govt Voter Guarantee "Help the Poor" Program
Posted by: flyover   2006-09-19 11:17  

#5  Maybe if they worked harder, they'd earn that extra bit of cash.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-09-19 11:09  

#4  WTF? I stayed in school, keep fit, and see a doctor regularly. Where the f*** is MY money?
Posted by: ST   2006-09-19 11:03  

#3  Wait and see in 20 years how those countries are doing. 10-1 they will be in the economic toilet.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-09-19 10:54  

#2  How about paying farmers not to plant crops too :)

Poor New Yorkers who make healthy choices - such as staying in school and regularly seeing the doctor - should be rewarded with cash to help break the cycle of poverty, Mayor Michael Bloomberg suggested Monday.

That's already in place. Make good choices and later in life, you get paid with better jobs and opporunities. Make bad choices and life sucks. Notice how so many grasshoppers in life who seek immediate gratification end up in poverty? Send the mayor a copy of Ben Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanac, for him to look up "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".
Posted by: Snineger Spavitle5395   2006-09-19 10:47  

#1  The idea, which has seen success in countries including Brazil and Mexico

Remember when it used to be: "We need to follow the social model of Germany/Japan/Canada/France"? Now we're supposed to emulate Mexico? It is to laugh
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-09-19 10:46  

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