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Putin orders pull out from Chechnya
2006-08-09
President Vladimir Putin issued an order to the Russian army and police troops to take steps for gradual withdrawal from Chechnya. By a Decree signed today, Putin tasked the Interior and Defense Ministries to work out until 15 December plans for redeployment of the security forces temporarily stationed in Chechnya. The Ministries have been tasked to look into possibilities for gradual withdrawal in the course of 2007 and 2008.
Despite what Kavkaz.com says, the war will probably wind down now that Shamil's dead. Good lesson to take with other conflicts, isn't it?
Posted by:Fred

#8  "even if Russia pulled out and left a moonscape devoid of life the Islamists would proclaim victory at driving the Russians out"

Yeah, kinda like the Knight in the Holy Grail: Knight: "Come back and fight, ya coward!"
King Arthur: "What are you going to do, bleed on me?"
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-08-09 16:12  

#7  The first thing I thought when I read the headline is that even if Russia pulled out and left a moonscape devoid of life the Islamists would proclaim victory at driving the Russians out.

The real lesson of the day is the one that needs to be learned. If you sell arms to bad people those arms can and will be used against you eventually. Its not as if the Islamic world could make the components of a suicide belt by their own, they can only assemble.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2006-08-09 14:17  

#6  Yeah, what tw said. Pest management usually requires a comprehensive solution.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-08-09 11:14  

#5  You're all right. It wasn't just killing the good sheikh. It was killing every leader and cannon fodderling that poked his head up, knocking down houses, and walling up the the suicide wannabes. Cumulative effect is so bad for morale.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-08-09 06:16  

#4  I don't think killing Yassin got Hamas to declare a cease-fire. It was their inability to retaliate with suicide bombings that got them to do so. If you can't make good on your threats, you try to save face by saying you're not going to attack anyway.
Posted by: Apostate   2006-08-09 02:28  

#3  At the very least, it's a lot harder to work from underground than above! And maybe it's best to leave some pitiful excuse for a command that is ineffective so there isn't as much encouragement to form a new command.
Posted by: gorb   2006-08-09 01:52  

#2  Israel did after months of procrastination and debates eliminate "sheikh" Yassin, and in the same breath his successor Rantissi, and what happened? Hamas declared an unilateral cease-fire...

So, killing the charismatic leaders works.
Posted by: leroidavid   2006-08-09 01:46  

#1  Yes: Kill the charismatic leaders. It's also a lot cheaper. I don't know why we worry about it. Terrorists would kill any head of state in an instant if they could. That world leaders won't be targets due to self-restraint on the part of the civilized world is about 90% self-indulgent fantasy and costs us a lot more opportunities and soldiers' lives than the policy is worth.
Posted by: gorb   2006-08-09 01:35  

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