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DU-grnd "Engineer" demo 'why jet didn't collapse the WTC'
2006-07-06
Can a jet fuel/hydrocarbon fire collapse a steel structure? An experiment...[apparently done back in 2005 but just discovered by our part of the blogosphere]

I set up the following experiment using steel rabbit fencing as the steel structure supporting a heavy cement block.

Note, this fencing is easily bendable, has no significant rigidity, and was not reinforced in any way. The fencing was bent into an outer square and an inner rectangle (the core)...

what follows are images of a kerosene fire in a bucket; a cinderblock on the rabbit fencing, etc. with incisive narrative to 'prove' that the collapse of the WTCenter wasn't due to the jets hitting it so obviously it was a Bush plot
Posted by:mhw

#23  Apparently there is such a thing as the "Journal of 9/11 Studies." which is edited by a physics prof at BYU and a ME prof from Clemson. The studies are all wacko conspiracy stuff.

Remarkably, their June 2006 edition just came out:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/.

My guess is that these are two adjunct profs looking to get a big fat grant from the Arab world but they may simply be infected with BDS.
Posted by: mhw   2006-07-06 15:52  

#22  his real motive was to create a home sized cement patio block tempering device.
what a maroon!
Posted by: USN, ret.   2006-07-06 14:37  

#21  I'ma gonna go fly a balsa-wood airplane into Stone Mountain

Sounds like Rantapalooza material, heh.


Thanks, Sea. I've been strivin' to get to Rantapalooza material status, lol!
Posted by: BA   2006-07-06 13:58  

#20  SR-71, that was cold. Near O degrees Kelvin cold.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-06 12:18  

#19  Probably got his engr PhD from MIT with Noam Chomsky.
Posted by: SR-71   2006-07-06 12:01  

#18  115. Please tell me you're joking.
This is the kind of thing that gives DU a moonbat image.


He he.

Btw, note that my own 9/11 conspiracy theories lean more toward state involment by Iran, Iraq, ISI, plus bosnian, sudanese, possibly russian, rogue elements,... and potential cover-ups of that extra dimension for political/PC reasons.
But I'm only half-remembering things written by commenters here, now and then, plus a few half understood articles linked by by John or DD.
Like the promised JFM article on the socialist link to 11M, this is something I'd like to see clarified by actually knowledgeable persons in original op pieces.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-07-06 11:40  

#17  "Here, hold my beer!"
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-06 11:27  

#16  I'ma gonna go fly a balsa-wood airplane into Stone Mountain

Sounds like Rantapalooza material, heh.
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-07-06 10:21  

#15  This isn't about science; it's about religion.
Posted by: Matt   2006-07-06 10:01  

#14  This man is wasting our oxygen.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-07-06 09:48  

#13  This so-called "experiment" would barely earn an "F" as a middle-school Science Fair project.

And these are the fucking idiots the Democratic Party is pandering to these days. God help us if these jerks ever get back in power...

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-06 09:34  

#12  Very sad, these IQ-challenged. This one's even contributing to global warming to make his mindless point.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-07-06 09:34  

#11  100,000 lbs of jetfuel atomized across 3 floors of the world trade center.

A bucket of kerosene under a piece of chicken wire.

Yeah, he's convinced me.

That he's a fucking moron.
Posted by: Angaising Omuter2832   2006-07-06 09:32  

#10  Next up? I'ma gonna go fly a balsa-wood airplane into Stone Mountain (GA) to "prove" the Pentagon was also blown up by Rove/Halliburton because the resulting hole in Stone Mountain is smaller than the wingspan of my balsa wood "747". Good gawd, these'n guys obviously aren't engineers, are they, much less "smart" by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted by: BA   2006-07-06 09:28  

#9  Jim: Not quite correct. There was an inner core to the building which had the elevator shafts, stairwells, and utilities, which was built using conventional skyscraper construction.

There's a long and very detailed pdf-format report on the construction of the two buildings and the causes of the collapse here.
Posted by: Mike   2006-07-06 07:45  

#8  Whaddya figure? C- at the science fair?
Posted by: tu3031   2006-07-06 07:20  

#7  The fencing was bent into an outer square and an inner rectangle (the core)...

Mistake number one, the WTC had NO "Core", so he's doubled the strength right here.
Posted by: Redneck Jim   2006-07-06 06:17  

#6  HISTORY CHANNEL + DISCOVERY CHANNEL + AUSSIE CHANNEL 40 + G4 geeks have already a'dunnit.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-07-06 02:51  

#5  The XXXXX DU Twin Tower Chicken Coop Experiment!

I think we should encourage him to build a chicken coop about 100 stories high and then invite some islamo types to fly into it to prove his thesis. oh yea.. we insist he stand on top during the testing phase.
Posted by: RD   2006-07-06 02:48  

#4  chicken wire, tin foil, why not add some chicken shit too?
Posted by: Threamble Phoque4147   2006-07-06 02:41  

#3  aint nothin better to do !
Posted by: Threamble Phoque4147   2006-07-06 02:40  

#2  The holes punched by the planes giving a draft, and all of that fuel (jet fuel, paper, etc.) above the holes, turned the towers into something pretty close to blast furnaces. Remember the smoke turning from black to greyish white? That's the signature of a very hot fire. Remember that it took several days for the fire to go out? This 'experiment' is laughable.
Posted by: PBMcL   2006-07-06 02:28  

#1  I think you'd need to trap the heat better, maybe tinfoil (no pun intended) wrapped around the chicken wire?
Posted by: Threremp Sholutle2252   2006-07-06 01:54  

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