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| 16pc of UK Muslims back 7/7 cause |
| 2006-07-04 |
| One in six British Muslims believes the London Tube and bus bombers were motivated by a just cause, according to an opinion poll. Sixteen percent of respondents to the poll conducted for The Times newspaper and ITV News felt the July 7 bombers' cause -- although not their actions -- was just. Thirteen percent said the bombers should be regarded as martyrs, and 7 percent felt suicide attacks on British civilians were justified in some circumstances. ITV said the poll showed that "a vast majority" of British Muslims did not sympathize with the bombings of last July 7, which killed 52 commuters and the four bombers. More than three-quarters of respondents -- 78 percent-- said they would be unhappy if a member of their family joined al-Qaida. Thirty-five percent said they would be proud if a family member joined the police. More than half of those polled -- 56 percent -- thought the government should do more to combat extremism within the Muslim community, although they were divided on how that should be done. Forty-eight percent felt the intelligence services had the right to infiltrate Muslim organizations to gather information, while 47 percent disagreed. Seventy-nine percent of respondents said their community had experienced hostility since the attacks. However, almost two-thirds -- 65 percent -- of respondents said the Muslim community needed to do more to integrate with the rest of society. There was concern about discrimination, with just 34 percent saying anti-terrorism laws were applied fairly to their community. Populus surveyed 1,131 Muslim adults between June 1 and June 16. The margin of error is plus or minus three percentage points. |
| Posted by:Nimble Spemble |
| #13 I wonder what percentage of non-Muslim British back the 7/7/ bombings? Given the growth of the Death to Western Civ movement here in the US and in Europe, I suspect it might be pretty high. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2006-07-04 20:53 |
| #12 One in six British Muslims believes the London Tube and bus bombers were motivated by a just cause Only one out of six! Ain't Taquia great? |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-07-04 14:08 |
| #11 Why not offer incentives to your own indiginous population (you know, white people) to HAVE BABIES!!! That's what I responded to, Fur Trapper. I much prefer your follow on explanation. As for my own bigotries, no doubt others can determine that better than I. Have a great Fourth! |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-07-04 13:37 |
| #10 "One of the things I like about the US is that being Caucasian doesn't make one more American than everyone else." Nor did I say it was. Your own knee-jerk bias is showing. I like the same thing you do, as a white man in a mixed ethnic marriage I don't see any racism in being pro-caucasian and wanting to see my ethnic group survive and advance. Neither does my wife. And I do not see any racism in her desire to see her ethnic group survive and advance. "True Brits aren't white-skinned, Fur Trader, they are those who believe in and want to be part of the culture that made Britain great." True enough, but again, not what I said. The true indiginous peoples of the British Isles are, however "white-skinned". And one has to be true to ones own kind, first. It can be done without decending into racism. My comment about not importing cultures hostile to your own is truer today than ever. Particularly when elements of your culture elevate the interests of the hostile culture over your own. Look around you, the cause/effect is everywhere to be seen. "On this page there is a tribute to a Muslim soldier who gave his life in England's service, and he will not be the only one, I'm sure." And? Your point? "Yes, there are Muslims who have turned to evil -- entirely too many." And I would say that most Muslims by the very nature of their ideology are steeped in evil. Look around you! "But seeing this war as an issue of skin colour turns away those who see all that is good in the West and want to be a part of it, not to take it from us as a farmer harvests grain." Again, you attribute something to me I have not voiced. As I said, your own biases are showing! Projection? Guilt maybe? Only you know. Enjoy your Independence Day celebration, I have Baby Backs to smoke. Peace. |
| Posted by: Fur Trapper 2006-07-04 12:44 |
| #9 The geo-politcal troublemakers of the last two centuries will pay the biggest price of all-a loss of its culture. Al Guardian has Written. |
| Posted by: SamAdamsky 2006-07-04 12:22 |
| #8 One of the things I like about the US is that being Caucasian doesn't make one more American than everyone else. True Brits aren't white-skinned, Fur Trader, they are those who believe in and want to be part of the culture that made Britain great. On this page there is a tribute to a Muslim soldier who gave his life in England's service, and he will not be the only one, I'm sure. Yes, there are Muslims who have turned to evil -- entirely too many. But seeing this war as an issue of skin colour turns away those who see all that is good in the West and want to be a part of it, not to take it from us as a farmer harvests grain. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2006-07-04 12:13 |
| #7 #1"Sorry, but Muslims have to go back where they came from." Don't be sorry, being sorry for things we shouldn't be is part of the problem with the West. Just send their asses back to where they came from, and them too. #2"But between the people eligible to replace them I would also include..." Why would you want to replace them? Why not offer incentives to your own indiginous population (you know, white people) to HAVE BABIES!!! Stop importing cultures hostile to yours. I wish we could do the same here. Soon though, soon. |
| Posted by: Fur Trapper 2006-07-04 11:26 |
| #6 The "welfare" state threatens the good, in order to pay for those who wish to kill the payers. It MUST be destroyed as soon as possible. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2006-07-04 10:29 |
| #5 Typical most of these leaches are on benefits offer nothing to British society and then whine that they are not treated properly. Tony blair if they are not happy let them go to an Islamic state and see how much benefits they get there.Bite the hand the feeds them. They make me sick.How come the Indians and every other minority can fit into our work ethic apart from these scroungers!!!!! |
| Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 2006-07-04 10:19 |
| #4 Yeah and I love how that article has no attribution. Just another phantom PSA from the AP. No more comments necessary. |
| Posted by: rich 2006-07-04 08:54 |
| #3 "More than three-quarters of respondents -- 78 percent-- said they would be unhappy if a member of their family joined al-Qaida. Thirty-five percent said they would be proud if a family member joined the police." Requisite impartiality in full effect here. I guess the writer felt that 78% being uphappy if a family member joined al-Qaida sounds better than 22% would be doing backflips if a family member joined al-Qaida. And that's only 13 points off from the joining the police stat. The writer of that story must have figured that emphasizing the 22% would have stirred the "brainless masses" to action, instead of what the media normally tries to do -- shame them. |
| Posted by: rich 2006-07-04 08:52 |
| #2 I would second it too. But between the people eligible to replace them I would also include any Afghan, Pakistani or Algerian who rejects Islam and Chariah. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-07-04 08:41 |
| #1 So one in six UK Muslims supports back pack bombings on public transport. And the UK choses to give their leader prior notification of police raids. Remember the shoes-off raid of the Finsbury terror center? Sorry, but Muslims have to go back where they came from. That is not racist because I would gladly replace them with Russian hockey players or Chinese launderers (as long as they don't lose my shirts). |
| Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 2006-07-04 08:30 |