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Fifth Column
Traitors In The Pentagon?
2006-07-03
If anyone doubts that the most serious threat to American security is the lack of fundamental loyalty on the part of significant segments of our population beginning with members of our intelligence and military agencies (egged on by irresponsibile leaders of the Democratic Party and the media), one has only to read this item from Reuters in today's news.

Apparently some officials in the Pentagon, concerned that the White House might take action against Iran have leaked classified information to the press (which the press, of course, is all to eager to publish for our enemies to view). This particular tidbit of damaging information is that America actually doesn't have the military ability to destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities. If this information is true, it is invaluable intelligence to the fanatics in Teheran. If it is not true, why would anyone leak it, since leaking it only encourages Iran's nuclear ambitions?

The leaking of this information is espionage -- as clearly defined by America's espionage laws. It provides extraordinarily valuable informaiton for the enemy and at one time would have been considered treasonous and prosecuted. Of course the government is unable to prosecute traitors anymore, it can't even monitor terrorist communications from abroad without having half the country's political actors in an uproar.
Posted by:Anonymoose

#32  at least they'll learn to do the jobs Americans won't do....oh..wait a minute
Posted by: Frank G   2006-07-03 23:27  

#31  I know a lot of friends who have Mexican nannies with 8th grade educations. What kind of values will those kids get? Not that they'll be poor values ethically. They just won't necessarily get the values that their parents would want them to have to succeed. And being half Mexican and all, I know that I wouldn't want my kids to have the values of a campesino. They wouldn't really be set up for success.
Posted by: 11A5S   2006-07-03 22:46  

#30  I have several friends who did in-home daycare to earn some extra money while their children were young. They all went to much more prestigious universities than I (I went to the state school my father was associated with, because with four kids in four years, that was what we could afford), and most had had prestigious jobs before deciding to stay home with their babies. Come to think of it, my mother's housekeeper's children went to more prestigious universities than I, too. And of the four au pairs I had while living in Germany, two had bachelors degrees, the third a master's, and the fourth subsequently went on to get her MBA. That "servant class" thingy is a bit of a muddle, and has been for a while.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-07-03 22:36  

#29  Just a fine point - but Boomers did not grow up on Sesame Street. Andy of Mayberry, Father Knows Best, Gunsmoke, The Wild, Wild West, Batman, Captain Kangaroo. No Sesame Street.
Posted by: ahem!   2006-07-03 22:05  

#28  Ahh... Barney the Dinosaur..., Destroyer of Worlds and eater of minds...

And how about the tellie-tubbies?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-07-03 20:43  

#27  Not the Hippys. It's the Socalists and Communists. That leaves out most of the "Hippys" These are people ideologically driven. Want to see it fully in action look at Germany and the EU. They run the show. They occupy the organs of government. These 68'ers are not the Hippys, they just had at one time Hippy trappings. A real Hippy would never be caught dead in a suit, these people are happy to wear the most expensive ones they can afford.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-07-03 19:30  

#26  I have a theory that dominant cultures decline because at some point they turn over the upbringing of their kids to servants. I read somewhere that while you get your name from your father, you get your culture from you mother. When 90% of your kids' time is spent with servants, then 90% of the values they absorb are going to be from the servant class. With the advent of women in the workforce and daycare, most kids these days are being raised by servants of one sort or another.
Posted by: 11A5S   2006-07-03 19:15  

#25  "...Barney the dinosaur..."

Oh, God... I hadn't thought of that. LOL!!

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-03 14:00  

#24  lol, Dave D. I shudder to think what (tomorrow's) generation who grew up on Barney the dinosaur will be like ("I love you, you love me, we're a happy family...").
Posted by: BA   2006-07-03 13:31  

#23  "They are like adolescents that hate their parents. They feel comfortable hating them but entitled to live under their roof and accept their care."

Theory: these are people who watched too damn much Sesame Street when they were little and are really, really PISSED that the real world didn't turn out to be anything like Big Bird said.

Just a theory...

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-03 12:15  

#22  We've been moving towards a civil war for quite some time. The left hates America and in some weird pathological manner they don't grasp that their desire to break down America is self-destructive to one of the most free and prosperous societies that is known to man. They are like adolescents that hate their parents. They feel comfortable hating them but entitled to live under their roof and accept their care.

That's what's wrong with those types of Boomers. They are stuck in an adolescent mindset. They can't grow up because if they do, they have to look in the mirror and say - gosh, I grew up. I'm old now. They spent their youth believing that "old and established" was bad. They can't let go of it. Like spoiled jet set children of millionaires, they can't quite grasp that once you lose it, it's gone. That's why they support the idea of a nanny state, it allows them to think that mommy will, as always, make sure it all turns out ok.

I'll let you know when and if I feel like shooting at my siblings. That's probably a good indicator of when it will begin. I'm nowhere even remotely close to that.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-03 11:57  

#21  I just was musing about your comment that they need to be crushed and thinking about how nearly impossible that will be considering the fact that our press and university nistitutions have a near stranglehold on the national dialog.

This is why we are approaching the civil war point. Executive branch agencies and judiciary branch penetrated, civility in ruins, full blown hatred of America on the Left, spineless legislative branch. Doesn't leave to much room to move.
Posted by: SR-71   2006-07-03 11:46  

#20  and what nimble said in #15.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-03 11:38  

#19  actually - I was agreeing with you. I just was musing about your comment that they need to be crushed and thinking about how nearly impossible that will be considering the fact that our press and university nistitutions have a near stranglehold on the national dialog.

I didn't mean to imply that those were your thoughts - just taking one step further.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-03 11:34  

#18  "...overwhelming majority of the Boomers who hold the reins of control in media, academia, religion, and the law are full bore '68er LLL."

I won't argue with that! That's where the DAMN hippies focused their efforts. And now it is time for us to do something about it.

I know what I think it is going to take, but I'm not going to say it here. Needless to say, it's sinktrap material.
Posted by: Fur Trapper   2006-07-03 11:19  

#17  Other than the outrage lets look at the leak. First, to think we do not have the capability to knock out ALL of their nuke sites is flat silly. Folks we could turn the whole planet into a parking lot, Iran is just a small spot. Two or three nights and they would be back living in the stone age. So why the leak?
Probably planted to see what some of our allies and other countries would do or say. Or something even be as simple as a leak to influence a vote on a supplemental for more aircraft or missles.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-07-03 09:51  

#16  Find the leakers and have them shot. And if the reporters do not help find the leakers then have them jailed forever for contempt.

The President MUST act now - start probing the CLintonista holdovers who are so disloyal to the nation as to give away its secrets for political gain. Get the Attounrey General and the military & intelligence Inspectors General rolling on this NOW.

Make the leakers knwo there is no more free lucnh. Cowards that they are, after the first is hung the rest will shut up.

Posted by: Oldspook   2006-07-03 09:41  

#15  And I would say that a significant segment of the Boomer demographic are more centrist or conservative than not.

I'm a boomer also, and this point is where we disagree in what may appear to be a minor but in fact is a major point. While a significant segment of the Boomers may not be LLL, the vast, overwhelming majority of the Boomers who hold the reins of control in media, academia, religion, and the law are full bore '68er LLL. They are the ones making the policies with which the majority of the people disagree. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't be talking about insurrection.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-07-03 09:40  

#14  Re dotcom - I have it on good authority he is playing tenor saxophone in an all girls orchestra in New Orleans.

Some dreams really do come true.
Posted by: GORT   2006-07-03 09:40  

#13  Some say he's run off with some Vegas showgirl with enormous ta-tas. Whatever, he's not here when we could use his clarity and frankness.

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-03 09:29  

#12  Whatever happened to .com, anyway?
Posted by: docob   2006-07-03 09:22  

#11  
"Either way, the boomers got to go."

I am a BOOMER, dipwad! And I am probably a LOT further on the right than you are. And I would say that a significant segment of the Boomer demographic are more centrist or conservative than not.

The problem is the DAMN hippy contingent. Either way, time for some serious wet work, or as .com would have said: "We need Hunter/Killer teams!".

Posted by: Fur Trapper   2006-07-03 09:19  

#10  "I agree with your conclusion Dave. Though I disagree that we can "crush" them. We aren't at the civil war point yet and real fighting (not verbal) between families isn't going to happen anytime soon."

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with, here. I didn't say, anywhere, that we "can" crush them; I said-- rephrasing a bit-- that crushing the Left (which I define as thoroughly negating their influence on our society, whether by political means, or by legal action, or by physical force) will prove to be a necessary precondition to victory against an ideologically-motivated enemy like Islamic imperialism.

And nowhere did I claim that "we're now at the civil war point"; hell, most of America is too damn busy placidly watching sitcoms and "reality TV" shows for any such thing.



Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-03 09:16  

#9  Problem is most of these fools don't understand where their food, water, and power really comes from.

Which proves that the left is incapable of learning from Katrina and New Orleans. In their own little world, they are blind to their environment, to real world behaviors, and the effect their behavior elicits upon others. Which is why they keep poking the 900 pound gorilla.
Posted by: Hupinemble Flaiger2203   2006-07-03 09:13  

#8  
"I'm convinced we cannot defeat the Islamist enemy without first crushing the Left. And I mean CRUSH. Until we take that step, everything we are doing is just wasting lives, money and time."

How do you propose we crush them? Someone here, a few days ago asked why the Right could not organize to marginalize the Left on all levels of society. The reply he received was a nearly incoherent ramble about meme's and memery!

Face it "The People" will have to solve this problem, and that will mean bloodshed, most likely covert.

You still have to find Patriots willing to do the deed, willing to sacrifice their freedom and even their lives. Where are you going to find them? Are you ready to join the fight? Huh? Obviously our elected representatives are too chicken shit to do their jobs.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: Fur Trapper   2006-07-03 09:04  

#7  Well, some of us anyway. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2006-07-03 08:56  

#6  The problem is the boomers like Keller and Sulzberg. What we need to do is wait about 15-20 years and the boomers will start to drop like flies, allowing the adults to take over. The other alternative is that the terrs do something so big that the boomers are ignored. Either way, the boomers got to go.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-07-03 08:37  

#5  I agree with your conclusion Dave. Though I disagree that we can "crush" them. We aren't at the civil war point yet and real fighting (not verbal) between families isn't going to happen anytime soon.

What we need to do is stop allowing the MSM, universities and hollywood shows stop making these people believe that their self-destructive cause and blame game is "the right way". In the end, these people are sheep. They do and say what they do and say because they want to be cool. In their mind, they are better than your ordinary working joe who goes to work, church and lives a productive life - that's boring! They are special. And they are special because the MSM tells them that they are smart and that they understand whatever it is the MSM and their university teachers want them to "understand". And everyone else is stupid because they don't believe what the MSM and their teachers at the universities tell them to believe.

What we need to do is stop the flow of money from foreign sources that corrupt our state department, media and universities that breeds this self-destructive self-righteousness.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-03 08:27  

#4  "Half the difficulties of the war in Iraq stem from the interal war that liberals like Rich and the leaders of the Democratic Party have conducted against the Iraq war from its inception."

Half? More like ninety percent. If America showed unity and resolve, we would not be experiencing even a tiny fraction of the resistance we're seeing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"A divided nation is a weak nation and everyone -- friend as well as foe -- knows it."

"Divided" is putting it far too kindly. The truth is, the entire Democratic Party, along with its paid propagandists in the media and its Leftist indoctrination cadres in our schools and universities, is rooting for the Islamist enemy and working actively, by every means available, to undermine America's efforts to defeat it. That isn't "divided": what it is, is providing the enemy with a Second Front.

When our enemy reads the output of our subversive "Fourth Estate" and listens to the asinine pronouncements of charlatans like Kerry, Kennedy, Feingold, Pelosi and Murtha, the ONLY rational conclusion he can come to-- and he doesn't have to be terribly bright to figure it out-- is that Osama bin Laden was absolutely, positively, 100% right about us: we in fact do NOT have the patience, resolve and determination to wage a protracted struggle against Islamic imperialism and sooner or later, if they will but harass us long enough in Iraq and Afghanistan, we will lose heart and give up just as we did in Beirut and Mogadishu.

If fact, at this point our enemy could reasonably conclude that OBL's only real mistake was to make the simple rookie error of attacking America in the opening months of a Republican administration that enjoyed a congressional majority; had he waited until the Democrats were in charge, he would have gotten exactly the result he was aiming for in his 9/11 attack: full American withdrawal from the Middle East, and a complete cessation of support for Israel.

"The opposition to this administration and this war is the most disgraceful in the history of this nation."

True enough; but frankly, I think what is damn near as disgraceful is the complete failure of the Bush administration to comprehend that it has TWO enemies waging war on America simultaneously: Islamic imperialism, and our own domestic Left-- and that they are openly, blatantly colluding. That failure, I fear, is going to get a lot of us killed in the coming years.

"Let's hope these betrayals don't result in another 9/11. Or worse."

Such hopes are pure folly: they will result in MANY more 9/11's; and those attacks will probably be perpetrated with nuclear weapons supplied by either North Korea or Iran, or both.

I'm convinced we cannot defeat the Islamist enemy without first crushing the Left. And I mean CRUSH. Until we take that step, everything we are doing is just wasting lives, money and time.

(Sorry for the length of this comment; but this needed to be said.)

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-07-03 08:04  

#3  I have a family member who is consumed with a frothing case of "Be the Gone Satan BDS. Plus I know others who have it too - It's basically THE religion inside the Beltway and of those who proudly call themselves liberals today. Bush is their Satan. To understand them, think of a religious fanatic on a soapbox telling you to repent because Satan is near.

There are many of these people in the pentagon and cia. Fewer in the military, but they are still there.

To a person, these people are usually very intelligent but were taunted as children. Fat, four eyes or some other such thing that made them subject to ridicule as children. If you ask, you will always find that is true. Someone was mean to them and they are still nursing the hurt.

In the good ol' days of America's heyday, as they got older, they would go to church and learn to forgive. But not today. Liberalism gives them another option - blame. It's not their fault. It's someone elses fault. But whose is it? It's Bush's fault. The culture of blame has made the middle east a &(*&hole for the past 2,000 years and they have brought their culture of blame to us.

All is justified in the fight against Satan.
Posted by: 2b   2006-07-03 07:54  

#2  No what they will result in is a Civil War.

Problem is most of these fools don't understand where their food, water, and power really comes from. Thety a re to "important" and removed from that knowledge, They don't know they are less than a day way from starting to starve if the food stops flowing into their cities and suburbs that the water literally could stop and turn where they live back into a desert, that the power they take for granted comes from some place else.

Some place that is much more patriotic than they are. Places where being well armed is a fact of life. Something for all you Coastal people to think about. Something for you New Yorkers and "Beltway" types to think about. I think lots of non coastal and non "urban" folks have about reached their limit.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-07-03 06:38  

#1  This one looks like a spin-off from Hersh's brainfart.
Posted by: Captain America   2006-07-03 01:23  

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