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Smell The Desperation: Donks To Push Cut 'N Run In Senate, Now
2006-06-21
The DhimmiDonk Mantra: Defeat = Victory... in November. No graphics for Sedition, Traitor or Coward, so I had to settle for these.
Democrats said yesterday that the United States must start "redeploying" troops from Iraq, calling the recovery of the mutilated bodies of two U.S. soldiers a "grim reminder" of why withdrawal should begin soon.
Actually, I'd say it's a reminder of why we want to do the fighting there, in the asshat's back yard, rather than here.
Republican leaders called the proposal for withdrawal a "cut and run" that would embolden terrorists.
Obvious, if you aren't a partisan asshole, total idiot, or utterly lacking a sense of shame.
The Senate is expected to spend at least five hours today debating two competing Democratic proposals to start pulling U.S. combat troops out of Iraq.
Productive.
The killings are "a grim reminder of the price we're paying for a failed policy in Iraq," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic whip. "It's time for Iraqis to stand up. When will this end?"
Yo, Turban Durbin, when will you stand up? Have you no shame? When will this end? I'd say not until you're sent packing to find productive employment.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said withdrawing troops would be a "dishonor of historic proportions. The Iraqi people want us and need us to help them. If we break our promise and cut and run, as some would have us do, the implications could be catastrophic," the Tennessee Republican said. "Surrendering is not a solution. We cannot go wobbly. The price is too high."
Though not a favorite of mine, Fristy's nailed this issue cold.
Last night, in a speech at the Hyatt Regency Washington to Republican volunteers, Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman said, "Republicans unite on the need to stay on the offense to confront terrorists; Democrats are having a debate in their party." He characterized the Democratic debate as some "say we need to cut and run; some people say we need to walk ... and other people say we need to jog." The comments come as lawmakers embark on a second week of debating Iraq policy, this time in the form of the Senate's defense authorization bill.
Some (heh) say the Donks should drop dead, too. I would like to help them, but that's just me.
Sen. Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat and ranking member on the Armed Services Committee, and Sen. Jack Reed, Rhode Island Democrat, have sponsored an amendment that calls for "phased redeployment" to begin by Dec. 31. The nonbinding amendment would require the Bush administration to submit a schedule for continued troop withdrawal.
Typical poseurs trying to look important and in charge - and this bit of sabotage is the only thing they can come up with.
Democratic Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin have a binding amendment calling for all combat troops to be redeployed by July 1, 2007. A similar measure offered last week was overwhelmingly defeated in the Senate.
But this time it'll be different. Really. We're not wanking for press releases and MSM orgasms. We've, uh, played with the numbers and dates and stuff, so this time will be special. This is what the Senate is for, y'know.
Mr. Kerry and Mr. Feingold -- potential presidential candidates in 2008 -- sent a joint e-mail to Mr. Kerry's 2004 campaign supporters saying that withdrawal will lead to a more effective war on terror. "Our troops have served valiantly in Iraq," the senators said. "Now, it's time to put the future of Iraq where it belongs: in the hands of the Iraqi people and their leaders."
Potential. Heh. Um, more effective how, exactly? Actually, your wet dream is more dead soldiers. It's the only thing that will serve your political ends. BTW, release your records, yet?
Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said Democrats agree that there "should be a redeployment starting sooner rather than later," and downplayed the difference between the Levin and Kerry amendments. "Even though we have at least two positions, I think if you look at them closely, they are both basically the same: that there should be redeployment of troops. It's a question of when," the Nevada Democrat said.
Yes, indeed, all of you are finally on message: Defeat.
Mr. Levin and Mr. Reed insisted yesterday that their amendment is not "cutting and running," and that it sets no pace or speed for combat troops to leave Iraq.
Then it is utterly unnecessary - and taking the decision out of the hands of the commanders on the ground, putting it in the hands of political hacks, is cutting and running.
Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, disagreed. "I don't support it. I strongly believe it's not when we leave, it's how we leave," he said.
Victorious. No more Dhimmidonk military adventures cut short because they didn't have the stomach for it. The "when" is easy - when victory is achieved and Iraq is secure. The lessons learned the hard way in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. - y'know, those places where we've had troops for 50+ years.
Either amendment would need 51 votes to become attached to the defense authorization bill. It is unlikely that enough Republicans will join the about 40 Democrats expected to vote for the Levin amendment. Fewer Democrats are expected to back the Kerry amendment because it fixes a date for complete withdrawal from Iraq.
This is pure kryptonite - America does NOT back either of these idiot ideas - the RINOs had better keep that in mind - to cover for lacking any innate sense or courage.
National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley told reporters on Air Force One yesterday that Iraqis are eager to assume responsibility for their nation's security. "Their concern is that we will move, draw down our forces too quickly, before they're ready," he said.
Why, that's rational!
The Senate last year passed a resolution declaring that 2006 would be a year of "significant transition" in Iraq.
Yep. That's what the Senate is for. Pointless uninformed posturing.
Last week, House lawmakers voted 256-153 to reject a timetable for troop withdrawal and approved a nonbinding resolution that affirms the Bush administration's Iraq policy. The 10 hours of House debate and expected five hours of Senate debate are the most significant discussion of Iraq policy since the war began in March 2003. More than 2,500 troops have been killed in the war.
Um, this has been shot down in the House, already, General Levin. Been there and done that. Just last week. Makes you wonder doesn't it? About the motives, I mean. This couldn't be another purely political Dhimmidonk stunt, could it? These Dhimmidonk "statesmen" are above that, right? I love Levin's pretentious little image thing, with the glasses down on his nose and his comb-over. I presume it's meant to convey serious scholarship and wisdom. Something like that. Funny, though, he doesn't seem to recall last week very clearly. I guess it's either Alzheimer's or politics. Probably both.
The Senate yesterday voted 79-19 to pass a nonbinding amendment saying Iraq should not grant amnesty to terrorists who attack, kill or wound U.S. troops, responding to a newspaper report that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was considering limited pardons for militants who lay down arms. Senators also voted 64-34 to approve a measure saying Congress recognizes Iraq as a sovereign nation.
Yep. That's what the Senate is for, alrighty. Nonbinding? Of course. Pointless? You said it. Irrelevant? Hey, it's the Senate, dood!
I've decided that losing your sense of shame leads directly to insanity and then to the Dhimmidonk Party, though some might suggest they are the same thing. You don't pass "Go", but you'll collect alot more than $200 - if you're reliably partisan.
Posted by:Ulusing Cleash5738

#21  I wondered about that as well. It's the first I've heard of it. Of course that means little.
Posted by: RJB in JC MO   2006-06-21 19:49  

#20  Mr. James

Also, WMDs may be burried under man made ponds in Iraq. We have known this, but none of the ponds have been drained for excavation yet. This process will commence shortly, I think.

Huh?
Posted by: 6   2006-06-21 16:25  

#19  said Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic whip.

Heh...caught a spelliing error. It should read: Democratic whimp.
Posted by: 2b   2006-06-21 16:17  

#18  #14 NS: Yes, I think you have it right. Here's Senator Stevens, who voted against:

"I wonder seriously about what the
Senator from Florida is doing by telling
this new fledgling democracy that
they cannot go through the process of
cleansing, go through the process of
trying to get people who were misguided,
who were part of coalitions
that they now are willing to recant, if
they are, to come forward and support
this new democracy. What are we doing
anyway on the floor of the Senate trying
to tell the new democracy what
they can and canÂ’t do? I didnÂ’t like
that story when I read it in the paper
this morning, but I was happy to see
the new statement from the security
people that clarified what they intend
to do.
But the time will come, if that democracy
is going to succeed, when they
are going to have to fold into their population
those who are willing now to
give up terrorism, those who are willing
to put aside the activities of the
past which led them to attack Americans
as well as any other—there are 34
other nations over there. Are we saying
just those who did kill Americans, they
canÂ’t get amnesty, but the rest of them
can?
What are we doing on the floor of the
Senate trying to debate an issue as to
how this country is going to come back
together again? I am sort of appalled at
it, really. I donÂ’t know if anyone else
is. But it seems to me that we ought to
do everything we can to encourage
them to bring their people together, to
forget the sins of the past, to forget the
terrorists of the past, and to pledge
themselves to a new future of democracy
and have people come forward and
say: I am willing to support this new
democracy. And if they do, and demonstrate
that they do after a period of
time, shouldnÂ’t they be recognized as
being loyal citizens of the new democracy?
This is a debate that disturbs me. It
disturbs me to think we are willing to
just seize the moment and make a political
point—seize the moment and
make a point—and not think. It is time
we started thinking about how we can
assure and take steps to help this country
survive as a democracy. If it becomes
a democracy in that part of the
world, it will be a marvelous success,
and I think it will lead to greater consideration
by other countries of liberalization
of their concepts and giving the
people more power.
I believe we ought to try to find some
way to encourage that country, to
demonstrate to those people who have
been opposed to what we are trying to
do, that it is worthwhile for them and
their children to come forward and support
this democracy. And if that is amnesty,
I am for it, I would be for it. And
if those people who come forward and
want to obtain a better life for their
families in the future are willing to
support that democracy—if they bear
arms against our people, what is the
difference between those people who
bore arms against the Union in the War
Between the States? What is the difference
between the Germans and the
Japanese and all the people we have
forgiven?
When I left the war and came home,
I had a deep hatred for the Japanese.
Today, Mr. President, I have a granddaughter
who is Japanese. I have a
daughter-in-law who is Japanese. And
her parents were involved in World War
II. Now, are we to understand that time
can heal, heal the pain of the past?
I really wish the Senator from Florida
would have the courage to withdraw
the amendment, just withdraw it
and say it was a political effort. This is
nothing but politics. I will vote to
table it or vote against it in good conscience."

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Posted by: KBK   2006-06-21 13:17  

#17  "The Democrat lawmakers are calling for 'redeployment' because much of their base wants to quit Iraq, and quit now."

Which brings up the core problem the Democrats have right now: their base sucks.

Around the time Operation Iraqi Freedom began-- actually, even before that, during the run-up to the 2002 mid-term elections-- the Democratic Party began pandering to the Kos/DU/Moveon.org crowd in a cynical bid to tap into the large reserves of money and passion on the political Left.

They made a conscious choice to take a ride on that tiger, and now they can't get off even if they wanted to-- which many of them don't, having gotten accustomed to the ride.

Four years ago, only a few of the Democratic politicos would ever utter the kinds of inane, defeatist lunacy we see now. But today it's standard fare for the entire Party; so much so, that Hillary Clinton may not succeed in getting the 2008 Democratic nomination because of her comparatively pro-WoT position, and Joe Lieberman-- a true-blue liberal-- seems on the brink of being drummed out of the Party by the DNC Chairman and his Connecticut counterpart, at the urging of the Kossacks et al.

So that's the problem for the Democratic Party right now: a shitty base.

And I think we've only barely begun-- God help us all-- to glimpse the full depth of their insanity.

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-06-21 12:47  

#16  They want to redeploy to New Orleans Nawlins to help fight crime. Recently, we have captured documents which infer that the 'insurgents' are despirate, and are running out of time. Since then, we have killed and captured another thousand 'insurgents'. And, rumor has it, we have a high ranking al Qaeda who is talking. So, we continue to roll the carpet, while the democrat party belittles itself publicly. What's not to like ?
Also, WMDs may be burried under man made ponds in Iraq. We have known this, but none of the ponds have been drained for excavation yet. This process will commence shortly, I think.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-06-21 11:54  

#15  The Democrat lawmakers are calling for 'redeployment' because much of their base wants to quit Iraq, and quit now.
Posted by: Pappy   2006-06-21 11:26  

#14  NAYs 19


Allard (R-CO)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagel (R-NE)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
McCain (R-AZ)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Warner (R-VA)

Interesting group. I'd like to find some of the debate, if any, to understand why. I suspect it has to do with BS preening by the donks to limit the flexibility of the Iraqi government in wartime. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman let a lot of traitors off the hook after the civil war and the nation was better for it.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-06-21 11:25  

#13  You just got to wonder which 19 Senators think itÂ’s a good idea to release bad guys that killed our troops in Iraq. I bet the vote on their resolution in something like 75-25.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2006-06-21 11:06  

#12  Benedict Arnold???? Well, he was kind of principled, so maybe not.

Or just the Hammer & Sickle?

Or J. Pollard, Ames or Hanssen?
Posted by: anonymous2u   2006-06-21 10:48  

#11  These people have to remember that we are currently holding most of them under indictment currently. To screw this war up could gaurantee them some consequences they did not expect.
Posted by: newc   2006-06-21 09:29  

#10  The donks are just a symptom of what is happening in Europe. Mass surrender and apathy. Leave us alone and we will give you what you want. Very Chamberlin.
I think these people fell asleep during history class, or were taking "multi-cultural" studies.
What a pathetic waste of oxygen these folk are.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-06-21 09:11  

#9  The dim-witted Dems don't mind living with camel dung boots (or Nikes) on their necks for the next several hundred years. What a bunch of f*cking losers-literally!
Posted by: P*ssed   2006-06-21 09:00  

#8  The Reps don't have the guts to now play the card given to them. That the cowards are responsible for the continuing deaths of innocent civilians, Coalition and American soldiers cause the enemy having lost the battle is desperately hoping that in another month, six months, a year, the Democrats will gain enough power to give them the victory they can not achieve otherwise. So they continue the violence for another day of media coverage. The Democrats have literally become an instrument of the enemy. Their words and actions means more will die. If the Democrats had presented a united front as the Republicans had done during WWII, the enemy would have already quit the fight. Each utterance, each media posturing event encourages the enemy to keep killing and killing and killing, with the hope that victory is but one more betrayal away.
Posted by: Cravish Grolunter8216   2006-06-21 08:59  

#7  The are just following the lesson of Vietnam. It is never too late to lose a war.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-06-21 08:58  

#6  Algeria was a prime exmaple of what happens when you send noises that you could be leaving soon. The FLN who for a time had set bombs in Algiers at leisure and massacred entire (mostly native) villages was on the ropes after the anti-terrorist operations of the paras. And then De Gaulle came and began making noises about conceeding independence or more exactly about handling power to the FLN?

Guess what happenned? Inforùmants who no longer informed, neutral or friendly populations turning to FLN because quite simply, they had to ingratiate with eth FLN before the French left or face unspeakable deaths (boiled alive or quartered were common place after independaence).

And that is what will happen in Irak once you set a fixed time table.
Posted by: JFM   2006-06-21 08:50  

#5  "i don't need a gun -- i've got a DONK"
Posted by: rich   2006-06-21 07:42  

#4  "Mr. Kerry and Mr. Feingold -- potential presidential candidates in 2008 -- sent a joint e-mail to Mr. Kerry's 2004 campaign supporters saying that withdrawal will lead to a more effective war on terror."

Good God Almighty. I can't even begin to comprehend the level of stupidity it would take to make a statement like that.

More than anything else we could possibly do, setting a "timetable" for "strategic redeployment" and walking out on the Iraqis would convince our jihadi enemy that Osama bin Laden was absolutely right about us: America is weak, soft, foolish, effete and corrupt, and simply DOES NOT have the stomach anymore for a long fight because it doesn't even believe in the rightness of its own cause. Bleed America enough-- and Lord knows, it doesn't take much**-- and we will eventually talk ourselves into giving up and leaving.

And it isn't just the Islamofascists who will be convinced of our weakness: China is watching. So is Iran. And North Korea. And Russia. They, too, are drawing conclusions about the lack of American steadfastness on extravegant display in the Democratic Party.

And someday, they are likely to act on those conclusions.

** Just for perspective, the number of American casualties in Iraq so far, after more than three years there, is roughly the same as just three weeks worth of U.S. highway fatalities-- or of six average days during World War II.

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-06-21 07:40  

#3  Shorter Democrats: "We are in serious danger of actually winning. We must hurry up and get out before that happens."
Posted by: eLarson   2006-06-21 07:16  

#2  When Fox News came to this story last night, I yelled at the lovely and charming Mrs. Bobby to turn it off; I was sick and tired of the dimmidem horse hockey.

Posturing is more important to them than soldiers lives. How low can one get?
Posted by: Bobby   2006-06-21 07:13  

#1  This treason can stand. When is enough, enough? How can anyone who says they support the troops or they support the WoT remain a Democrat?

The MSM is a tool in total thrall of the socialist/neo-communist wing of the Demopcrat party. No lie is to great and to sedition to evil for them to pass off as fact. The Democrat Politicians even worse.

I curse you all Democrats and hope the wrath of Hell consumes each one of you treason loving, back stabbimg haters of all that is decent and right.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2006-06-21 07:10  

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