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| Interesting backgrounder on the father of one of the accused Canucks |
| 2006-06-06 |
| The lingering threat of global terrorism became a concrete reality for Canadians on Saturday following allegations that 17 people plotted an imminent attack with three times the explosive material used in the devastating Oklahoma City bombing. A bag of ammonium nitrate was displayed by police as they revealed that an "inspired by al-Qaida" group of mostly Canadian citizens had amassed three tonnes of the fertilizer - commonplace in backyard gardens but also used in large quantities to make explosives for deadly ends. "It was their intent to use it for a terrorist attack," RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell said of the homegrown plot to target unspecified institutions throughout southern Ontario. |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #20 He's not a terrorist, come on, he's a Canadian citizen," Chand said of his brother. "The people that were arrested are good people. They go to the mosque. They go to school, go to college." Chand is a Hindu convert. Does this mean his brother is a convert too? Otherwise, what the heck does he know what goes down at a mosque. |
| Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-06-06 21:40 |
| #19 Anyone know if Chand is a common last name? I'd hate to think my primary care physician is related to these j#ck#sses.. |
| Posted by: IG-88 2006-06-06 19:00 |
| #18 Yes, knowing that the Koran teaches/intends to kill all infidels is pretty damn clear. What I mean by staying vigilant, is just that; that we need to stay awake, keeping on our toes, alertly watchful especially to avoid danger. To protect our freedoms that we hold so dear. The fact that we have compassion for others and that they trample all over us and see it as a sign of weakness just shows us what animals they can be. Actually animals are higher on the food chain in my book than these types that follow Jihad. I feel bad that we seem to have allowed them to get entrenched into our society and it's going to be an upwards battleground. Building the mosque is ok, it's what they discuss inside that's concerning. Freedom of speech is good, but we need to monitor the hate that is directed to us that is fed to these mosque attendees. |
| Posted by: Jan 2006-06-06 17:21 |
| #17 Jan, staying vigilant is postponing the inevitable. Islam intends to destroy all other belief systems, that includes all religions, science, art, music, and all other free forms of expression. It's a paradox, but our duty is to defend freedom forever, or allow them to use our beliefs against our own freedom. To make the right choice, we MUST declare Islam a blood cult, not a religion. Therefore, we can make the practice of Islam unlawful. This is a necessary step, NECESSARY. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-06-06 15:44 |
| #16 Thanks, I do tend at times to get caught up in some terrible scenarios that could play out. Along with a bad feeling of everything getting alot worse before it gets better. I do usually feel pretty positive about life and things in general. A nice cold one helps after working hard outside in the sun :) We just have to stay ever vigilant. I do hope that our politicians listen to us and strenghten our borders. |
| Posted by: Jan 2006-06-06 14:43 |
| #15 For some reason I think Mosque building should have been halted in the Western world on Sept 12, at least until the duration of hostilities is over. Same with visa applications to anyone from the Islamic world. War is war and sometimes you have to take serious steps. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2006-06-06 14:03 |
| #14 20 years ago were there any mosque's in Canada? Edmonton, Alberta has the longest existing Muslim community in North America. Been around for 100 years or so. The bitter cold of the Edmonton winter meant that they were more concerned with keeping warm than any form of extremism. Global warming could change things though. Jan, this mindset won't become the majority any time soon, if at all. Don't buy into this kind of fear mongering. Canada is not Europe. Doesn't mean there won't be successful terror strikes here, but then, that sort of thing will only serve to reassure people that there will never be a majority of that sort. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2006-06-06 13:20 |
| #13 "He's not a terrorist, come on, he's a Canadian citizen," Chand said of his brother. "The people that were arrested are good people. They go to the mosque. They go to school, go to college." This statement stood out to me and speaks volumes. 20 years ago were there any mosque's in Canada? While I love diversity, I'm starting to wonder if it's all that it's chalked up to be. To embrace each other's cultures and religious freedoms I do agree that is a very important commonality. I do however feel that we as a people need to come together to get along and to support each other. Diversity in my book doesn't mean to allow others to come in to a country and change the very heart and soul and then expect that we stand up for these values that go so much against the grain of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This saturation and changing of our common core values needs to be looked at more closely. This trend is more than scary here. When this mind set becomes the majority I don't think they will be as supportive of my beliefs and culture. Where are the people that think like me? Ok I'm done, time to go back out and finish mowing. |
| Posted by: Jan 2006-06-06 12:51 |
| #12 phil_b, I thought the reactor was decommissioned in 1999, but I'll have a look when I'm in the area. I recall seeing a sign or plaque or something to that effect. Interestingly, a quick google of utoronto magazine came up with this: There is also the sorry saga of cloned Chinese SLOWPOKEs in Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Ghana and Nigeria, reported in the Dec. 18, 1999 issue of the Toronto Star. C'est dommage. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2006-06-06 12:18 |
| #11 phil_b: a quick web search will give you a schematic, a handy map and directions by plane, train, car or subway to the SLOWPOKE reactor at the university. However, I'm more worried about someone blowing up the CANDU reactor at Pickering. |
| Posted by: growler 2006-06-06 10:52 |
| #10 What can we do to keep our nation secure ? Perhaps we need to start a dialog. |
| Posted by: wxjames 2006-06-06 10:45 |
| #9 "The majority sported the traditional Muslim male beard." This is a fallacy. THere is no such thing as a tradition of Muslim beard. First because there is a lot of ethnias who grow little or no beard Second: Because even between those who could have a beard it was just a matter of personal taste. Look at Muslim art: you will see a lot of mustaches but about none of the Caliphs, vizirs and guards has a beard, look at photos of crowws in Algeria or Egypt (specially photos before the Iranian revolution): about no beards and still less those untrimmed beards who are islamaist signature The "traditional" Muslim beard is in fact a distinctive of wahabi inspired islmamists: Muhammad is supposed to have worn a beard so they wear beard, they will dress in what they think was Arabic 7th century style, because Muhammad applied kohl on his eyelids (to protect them from desert sun) so they will apply kohl on their eyelids despite living in Canada. And, in the worlds of an old Algerian, "if Muhammad had put a stick in his ass, they would stick a sticck in their ass" Sooryy but those guys wearing the not-so-traditional islamic beard are in fact no mere Muslims but Isklamists and in fact people who support Jihad. Normal Muslims don't wear them. |
| Posted by: JFM 2006-06-06 08:47 |
| #8 "The majority sported the traditional Muslim male beard." I wonder, do their women sport the traditional Muslim female beard? Just askin'. -M |
| Posted by: Manolo 2006-06-06 08:15 |
| #7 They are Ummah Colonists not canadians. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2006-06-06 07:24 |
| #6 I bet they get at least 5 years in prison. |
| Posted by: gromky 2006-06-06 05:26 |
| #5 "It's not terrorism. It could be some criminal activity with a few guys, that's all," said Hindy. "We are the ones always accused." can you say ignorant behavior? |
| Posted by: 3dc 2006-06-06 03:26 |
| #4 Rafael, when I lived in downtown TO 15+ years ago. I used to regularly walk past the atomic reactor on the UofT campus downtown. They used to have a nice sign on the side of the building to make sure you got the right building. And on a Sunday, you could park right up against the side of the building. Just curious if things have changed. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2006-06-06 03:06 |
| #3 Gonna be hard for defense Attys to argue "Boyz will be Boyz" playing at War, wid the components for a real bomb. ACLU??? |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2006-06-06 01:45 |
| #2 20 years ago the world was different. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2006-06-06 01:31 |
| #1 Message to my freinds in Canada. Dad shouldn't be around anything more atomic than a StaticMaster. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-06-06 01:23 |