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Home Front: WoT
Canadian border difficult to secure
2006-06-06
Tighter border controls between the United States and Canada are likely to be less useful than better domestic intelligence and information-sharing in detecting homegrown terrorist plots in North America, terrorism experts said yesterday.

According to Canadian authorities, the suspected fertilizer bomb plot that led to the arrest Saturday in Ontario of 17 men, most of them Canadian citizens of South Asian origin, appeared to follow the pattern of successful terrorist attacks in Madrid in 2004 and in London last year. As in those instances, officials said, those accused in the Canadian case are Muslims with no evident ties to Al Qaeda leaders overseas except a shared ideology.

"These are the metastases of the cancer of international Islamic extremism," said John O. Brennan, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center and a former career Central Intelligence Agency officer. "It shows the terrorist threat may be within our midst and not coming from off our shores."
Posted by:Dan Darling

#18  The cultural sneering at the US combined with flirtation with Sharia .... is more of a concern.

Pffft. You guys have a culture? I mean, besides the gun culture of course. (relaaax, put them back in the holsters, that was just me being silly)

Regarding Sharia...if you meant that literally, it's the Liberals who put an end to that, in Ontario at least.

john: Control three airports, and you control who gets into the country

More airports than that I'm afraid: Gander, Happy-Valley Goose Bay (love that name), Iqaluit, Kuujjuaq. All refueling points for general aviation, coming in from across the pond. Fortunately, not many people take that route. Maybe two in five years.
Posted by: Rafael   2006-06-06 23:14  

#17  On rereading that, clearly you're right, flyover. My apologies, john. Although there does seem to be a problem with back-and-forth flow of bad guys across that border, based on this latest series of arrests around the world. The U.S. is not an uninvolved bystander in Canada's troubles, sadly.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-06-06 22:53  

#16  Unless, of course, you think the jihadis infiltrate Canada from the US. That may, indeed, be a problem, lol.
:)
Posted by: flyover   2006-06-06 22:47  

#15  John is talking about getting into Canada in the first place, I believe.
Posted by: flyover   2006-06-06 22:45  

#14  I assume you don't live near the Canadian border, john. I grew up in a suburb of Buffalo, New York, about 20 minutes drive from Niagara Falls. I seem to recall several bridges crossing over the Niagara River to Canada in our vicinity, plus one could easily sail across Lake Erie, from one marina to another. Further along the border, there are unfenced, unguarded roads that connect small communities on both sides of the border, for the convenience of truckers bringing beer to the bars on the other side, and suchlike activities. I rather imagine that much of the border could be crossed unobserved on foot, without the attendent difficulties of transversing a hostile desert, as at the Mexican border.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-06-06 22:40  

#13  Cut a deal with Alberta. Fence the rest of them off. All those imports are Chevys we don't need.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-06-06 21:23  

#12  Sorry Dan, frankly, this article is crap. If you want to secure the Canadian border, you only have to deal with the three ports of entry into Canada: Toronto Airport, Montreal Airport, and Vancouver Airport. There are no other places to get into Canada other than the port of Halifax and cargo ship traffic.

Control three airports, and you control who gets into the country and who reaches the US border. This is so simple a child could figure it out, but we are dealing with politicians.
Posted by: john   2006-06-06 21:07  

#11  The football rules I can live with. The cultural sneering at the US combined with flirtation with Sharia .... is more of a concern.
Posted by: lotp   2006-06-06 18:29  

#10  Rafael: I don't think many Americans care, CL.

Sure we do Rafael,

But first it's just like what flyover said...

You gotta syncronize team Canada with USA football rulz, and “Render unto Gitmo the things which are Gitmo's, and unto Ole Sparky the things that are Ole Sparky's.”
Posted by: RD   2006-06-06 18:12  

#9  Sharks. Sharks with Lasers.
Posted by: ed   2006-06-06 15:56  

#8  And the Great Lakes?
Posted by: Rafael   2006-06-06 15:51  

#7  A quarter mile wide patch of poison ivy for the length of the border would be a pretty good first patch at securing it.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-06-06 15:41  

#6  I don't think many Americans care, CL.
Posted by: Rafael   2006-06-06 12:08  

#5  Unlikely UW. Our two economies are as tightly linked as they come. Not totally sure on this, but I believe our trade with Ontario alone is greater than our trade with any one country apart from Canada.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal   2006-06-06 11:01  

#4  Tighter border controls between the United States and Canada are likely to be less useful than better domestic intelligence and information-sharing in detecting homegrown terrorist plots in North America, terrorism experts said yesterday.

What would we do without experts?
Allow one major successful terrorist attack from either neighbor and you'll see the border close tighter than a sphincter on a flea and border trade drop to nil.
Posted by: Uloger Whease2177   2006-06-06 08:56  

#3  You forgot your [/humor] tag, flyover. ;-)
Posted by: lotp   2006-06-06 07:59  

#2  There's a wild rumor that we're all in this together. Silly, I know. We're not at all alike. Their football fields are all skewed out of proportion. Way too big. Lets the skinny little shits get away instead of being crushed like ripe grapes, the way it oughtta be. Okay, so I always hated those little fast guys. Fucking Canadians. Letting skinny little shits get away like that. Good thing I don't hold a grudge.
Posted by: flyover   2006-06-06 03:23  

#1  "I think that our immigration laws as they are implemented are very close in the outcomes as the United States immigration laws,"

Exactly.
Posted by: Rafael   2006-06-06 01:19  

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