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Home Front: Politix
Carter warns against Iran conditions
2006-06-04
It never stops with this boob...
The former American president, Jimmy Carter, has said that the United States should begin talks with Iran without preconditions. Mr Carter believes prerequisites could present the Iranian Government with too great an impediment to overcome. His comments are significant, given that he was the president when US relations with Iran hit an all-time low.
Oh, boy. Guess we'd better pay attention then...
Remind us all why that was ...
He witnessed the Iranian revolution and the seizure of the American Embassy in Tehran in 1979.
He witnessed a lotta stuff. He just never stopped any of it.
He's a real expert in being buffaloed by the Ayatollahs.
He struggled for 444 days to release the US Embassy staff held hostage. A failed rescue attempt led by the US military brought about the resignation of his secretary of state. It was the crisis that has scarred relations between the two countries ever since.
No, it was our failure to stomp the bejeebus out of the 'students' that scarred relations.
But Mr Carter thinks attempts to improve relations should have started long ago. And he believes that this administration's offer to sit down and talk on conditions that Iran gives up its uranium enrichment program may not be enough.
Why isn't this guy in a nursing home being spoon fed applesauce?
Posted by:tu3031

#20  He's our leading contrarian indicator! If he says we should talk with the idiots who run Iran, that means we should just bypass the UN Hey, I for one am glad the old guy's still around, and we should pay strict attention to every word that falls from his lips. He's our leading contrarian indicator! If he says we should talk with the idiots who run Iran, that means we should just bypass the UN and anything else that passes for "due process" and blast their seat of government and anything else they might depend on back to the stone age right now. I>

grb, that's exactly the same JIMMUAH PEANUT INDEX that Frank identified yesterday, it's not only good but 100% true to the bone!
Posted by: RD   2006-06-04 21:06  

#19  Dave D.

WORD!!!

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2006-06-04 20:10  

#18  Hey, I for one am glad the old guy's still around, and we should pay strict attention to every word that falls from his lips. He's our leading contrarian indicator! If he says we should talk with the idiots who run Iran, that means we should just bypass the UN and anything else that passes for "due process" and blast their seat of government and anything else they might depend on back to the stone age right now. (Wait a minute, did they ever evolve past that stage, or does their interpretation of sharia somehow forbid it?)
Posted by: grb   2006-06-04 19:54  

#17  That lack of leadership set the stage for a boost of confidence on terrorists all over the world, especially in the Middle East. The result is thousands of American deaths.

'AMERICA CAN'T DO A THING' - Amir Taheri.
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-06-04 13:39  

#16  "But Mr Carter thinks attempts to improve relations should have started long ago."

Absolutely, Jimmy. The Iranian government should have started improving relations on Day One of the 1979 hostage crisis by entering the beseiged US Embassy, arresting the "student" hostage-takers, and releasing the captives.

Or they could have started improving relations later on in the crisis, by reconsidering their actions and releasing the hostages.

Or they could have started improving relations even later, after the hostages were finally released in 1980, by apologizing to America and the hostages and paying appropriate compensation.

Or even later, by withdrawing all support for Hizbollah and destroying it, then seeking a rapproachment with America.

Or even later, by NOT sponsoring the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia.

Or even later still, by... oh, that's not what you meant?

There's something terribly, monstrously, pathologically defective about people like Jimmy Carter who think EVERYTHING is America's fault, and that EVERY despicable atrocity committed by EVERY shitbag, scum-sucking dictatorship throughout the world is merely a natural reaction to some imagined American malfeasance-- and that all we have to do to put a stop to evil in the world is refrain from calling it "evil".

Can we really expect to survive much longer with Jimmy Carter and his ilk running around loose?

Posted by: Dave D.   2006-06-04 12:24  

#15  A fool with good intentions is still a fool. Jimmy, just shut up.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-06-04 12:10  

#14  I'm sure it was just a happenstance that the hostages were relased the DAY Reagan took office.......hmmmmm, smells like Denmark. Dont worry neo cons, the American public would NEVER put 2 and 2 together to figure that one out.
Posted by: bk   2006-06-04 11:53  

#13  The Iranian hostage crisis was not about a relatively small number of hostages at the US embassy in Teheran. That was secondary. If I was a hostage, I probably would want anything done to secure my release, short of becoming a total 'ho for the hostage takers. The big issue of the crisis was that 200+ million Americans were taken hostage by the actions of the Iranians and the INACTION and INDECISIVNESS of President Jimmy Carter.

That lack of leadership set the stage for a boost of confidence on terrorists all over the world, especially in the Middle East. The result is thousands of American deaths.

Sh*t just does not happen. There is a chain of events leading up to the action. Whether it is a structural failure of a building, an aircraft accident, or a total breakdown of society in New Orleans due to Hurricane Katrina, examination will disclose a chain of events leading up to the disaster.

The problem is that there are relatively few of us examining and understanding those chains of events. The media could be really helpful in raising consciousness in this, but they are fully occupied in pushing their own agenda and ultimately their own suicide mission.

The tide is turning. The MSM is in decline. The problem is that events are accelerating. We do not have the luxury of time to wait for the tide to come in.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-06-04 11:25  

#12  Now let's see. During Carter's brief stay in office, was it four or was it five countries that "went communist"?

This is the same guy who believed that both Marshal Tito and Nicholai Ceausescu "shared his belief in enhancing human rights", lobbied the UNSC to oppose the US attempt to free Kuwait from Saddam, and was deeply concerned that his human rights efforts might "offend" the Soviet Union.

This is a guy who deserves to live the rest of his life in a North Korean labor camp. And who would probably be impressed there with their fairness and equality.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-06-04 10:10  

#11  I say we send him to Iran, then leak the rumor he peed on the Koran and let the Iranians do the good work for us.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-06-04 09:38  

#10  I'm just surprised he hasn't gone over there to negotiate a deal yet, like he did to Clinton with the NorKs.
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2006-06-04 09:00  

#9  "No prerequisites" would only be phase one of any true Carter plan. The not-yet-announced but always coming Carter phase 2 would be a multi-billion dollar bribe to the authoritarian government in question in exchange for empty reassurances. Give the man another Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: Odysseus   2006-06-04 08:20  

#8  My theory is that America doesn't get into trouble for the wars she fights, but rather the ones she doesn't fight. Smashing the 'students' and their facist Ayatollah Would have saved us (and the world) 36 years of this nonsense. Great job, Jimmy. Why don't you go talk to the families of the victims of Hizbollah first?
Posted by: Chinter Flarong9283   2006-06-04 07:57  

#7  The enemy.
Posted by: flyover   2006-06-04 02:26  

#6  
come on DMFD that's mathematically wishy washy, gotta try for 100%. >::

Posted by: RD   2006-06-04 01:02  

#5  This fool enabled the overthrow of the Shah and allowed these freakin' mullahs and other assorted asswipes to take over Iran and start this Islamic renewal in the first place. Does he think anyone with the sense of a parrot is going to listen to his advice ? Enough already, Jimmah.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat   2006-06-04 00:43  

#4  There are six billion people on earth. I'd listen to advice from 5,999,999,999 of them before listening to advice on Iran from Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-06-04 00:35  

#3  #2 Frank G - more like about 198% of the time....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-06-04 00:31  

#2  If you just did the opposite of whatever this historical mistake advised, you'd be in th emoral, ethical, and pro-American security right about 98% of the time. Jimmy, you POS, feeling poorly any time soon?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-06-04 00:28  

#1  
But Mr Carter thinks attempts to improve relations should have started long ago.
True. He should have immediately responded with overwhelming force when Iran declared war on America instead of sitting his ass and wringing his hands like the helpless loser he was - and is.
And he believes that this administration's offer to sit down and talk on conditions that Iran gives up its uranium enrichment program may not be enough.
It's not. They need incentives - like destruction of all the MMs. Now. (Yeah, I know - that's not what he has in mind.)

Will this embarrassing LOSER please STFU? :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2006-06-04 00:24  

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