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Iraq
Not all in favor of releasing Zarqawi bloopers
2006-05-07
You can always count on the NYT to find the dark lining in a silver cloud.
An effort by the American military to discredit the terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi by showing video outtakes of him fumbling with a machine gun — suggesting that he lacks real fighting skill — was questioned yesterday by retired and active American military officers.

The video clips, released on Thursday to news organizations in Baghdad, show the terrorist leader confused about how to handle an M-249 squad automatic weapon, known as an S.A.W., which is part of the American inventory of infantry weapons.

The American military, which said it captured the videotapes in a recent raid, released selected outtakes in an effort to undermine Mr. Zarqawi's image as leader of the Council of Holy Warriors, formerly Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, and suggested that his fighting talents and experience were less than his propaganda portrays. But several veterans of wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, as well as active-duty officers, said in telephone interviews yesterday that the clips of Mr. Zarqawi's supposed martial incompetence were unconvincing.

The weapon in question is complicated to master, and American soldiers and marines undergo many days of training to achieve the most basic competence with it. Moreover, the weapon in Mr. Zarqawi's hands was an older variant, which makes its malfunctioning unsurprising. The veterans said Mr. Zarqawi, who had spent his years as a terrorist surrounded by simpler weapons of Soviet design, could hardly have been expected to know how to handle it.

"They are making a big deal out of nothing," said Mario Costagliola, who retired as an Army colonel last month after serving as the operations officer for the 42nd Infantry Division in Tikrit, Iraq.

An active-duty Special Forces colonel who served in Iraq also said that what the video showed actually had little relationship to Mr. Zarqawi's level of terrorist skill. "Looking at the video, I enjoy it; I like that he looks kind of goofy," said the Special Forces officer, who was granted anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on military matters. "But as a military guy, I shrug my shoulders and say: 'Of course he doesn't know how to use it. It's our gun.' He doesn't look as stupid as they said he looks."

The release of the captured video reflected the dueling public relations efforts between the American-led forces fighting in Iraq and the terrorists and insurgents. It also reflected increasing interest by the military and civilian strategists in trying to ridicule Mr. Zarqawi.

"In Arab and Muslim societies, pride and shame are felt much more profoundly than they are in Western culture," said J. Michael Waller, a professor at the Institute of World Politics, a graduate school in Washington. "To find video like this that can cut him down to size and discredit him is a real way of fighting terrorism." A paper written by Professor Waller advocating the use of ridicule against the insurgents has been circulating at the Pentagon and among military commanders with experience in Iraq recently, according to several military officers.

But the retired and active officers said the public presentation of the tape did not address elements that were disturbing, rather than amusing: the weapon was probably captured from American soldiers, indicating a tactical victory for the insurgents. And Mr. Zarqawi looked clean and plump.

"I see a guy who is getting a lot of groceries and local support," said Nick Pratt, a Marine Corps veteran and professor of terrorism studies at the George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies in Germany. "You cannot say he is a bad operator." He added, "People should be careful who they poke fun at."
Posted by:Dan Darling

#7  My beloved father, dead these past several years, used to say:

The trouble with the world is that there are more horses asses than there are horses.

Stuck with me, as he almost never used strong language of any kind.
Posted by: lotp   2006-05-07 20:23  

#6  I said yesterday fuck the NYT and these idiots commenting on their behalf. I'd poke fun at zarki all day on Arab t.v. and send these tapes right to Al Jizz. I'd also show every sheik in the al anbar this tape. Nick Pratt, you asshole, you ought to know better.

"The weapon in question is complicated to master, and American soldiers and marines undergo many days of training to achieve the most basic competence with it."

-that is bullshit. Besides cleaining the damn thing and remembering to keep your palm to the sky when pulling the charging handle it's actually a pretty easy weapon to operate.

God! Why do you put so many assholes on the planet at the same time?!
Posted by: Broadhead6   2006-05-07 20:10  

#5  Since they are Democrats with an axe to grind.
Posted by: SPoD   2006-05-07 10:59  

#4  well in reality most arabs or middle easy=terners wouldn't have known that it was an older version of the weapon and it hw difficult it is too use if the asswipes had kept their mouths shut.Since when do ex soldiers and active ones have too open their mouiths too help the enemy when their friends are over there still fighting?
Posted by: Greamp Elmavinter1163   2006-05-07 10:54  

#3  Schizophrenics feel paranoia more deeply than normal people therefore we should indulge their fantasies and not let reality intrude because it might further upset them.
Posted by: Odysseus   2006-05-07 09:31  

#2  But it's "Every silver lining has a cloud"©

But it somehow doesn't seem to quite cover the NYT point of view....

More like "Every silver lining was made from precious minerals stolen from Mother Earth by overworked, underpaid, abused wage slaves to line the pockets of the rich, fat-cat capitalists starting with Cheney-Halliburton and oiloiloil"

Somebody here can do better than that!
Posted by: Bobby   2006-05-07 08:48  

#1  "In Arab and Muslim societies, pride and shame are felt much more profoundly than they are in Western culture,"

Except that their values are screwed up upside down. E.g., honour killing where there's no honor palpable in such - none by by the measure of the Golden Rule wrt human civilization understood by all other civilized nations.

It's their excessive indulgent narcissistic distortion of shame and pride. Something that is also unappeasable.
Posted by: Duh!   2006-05-07 00:38  

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