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More on defense of plutonium pile in Livermore CA
2006-02-04
I left a post about this a few days ago, here's more info.
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory plans to install high-powered machine guns over the next few months capable of hitting land vehicles or aircraft almost a mile away in the event of a terrorist attack
Should do wonders for real estate values within a few miles of the lab... I know little about weaponry, but I much doubt these would be of use against air attack.
"A lot of people are willing to die if they can kill lots of Americans ... You want to make clear that when they come here to die (by attacking the lab), they die for a failure," the blunt-speaking Brooks said at a press conference at Livermore on Thursday, where he unveiled one of the guns.

He said the guns will be operational later this year after the lab's guards are trained and the weapons and related equipment are purchased. Brooks insisted the Gatling gun purchase is unrelated to a recent announcement that the lab might double its supply of plutonium...the lab's security force [is] employed by Lawrence Livermore and UC [University of California], which runs the lab under contract with the Energy Department.... lab officials want to ensure that in [the event of a "military-style" terrorist attack either from a ground vehicle or an aircraft]..., lab security guards can quell the invasion immediately without any Livermore staff losses.
In November [2005], the Energy Department authorized the lab to increase its amount of stored plutonium to an amount exceeding 3,000 pounds -- enough for as many as about 300 nuclear bombs...The authorization [for the new defensive measures] came three months after an advisory panel to the department urged the lab to ship almost all of its nuclear bomb materials -- estimated to be as much as 1,540 pounds worth -- to a remote, safer site because of the growing suburbanization of the Livermore area to prevent a potential terrorist attack.

2004 Security Failure Exposed
In February 2004, an intruder managed to drive a truck inside the Livermore site security perimeter. During the incident guards failed to activate recently installed pop-up barriers, according to a report six months later by the Energy Department's inspector general.

I'm not an anti-nuclear activist, but I think these facilities should be located in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure the scientists & techs at the lab like living in the Bay Area, but it's just asking for trouble.
Posted by:Whutch Threth6418

#7  Hey Bomb-a-rama, where do you live? I live in Antioch just over the hills from Livermore and know the area well.

I also work at LBNL and the Hayward fault runs about 50 meters from our main gate.

Send me message off-list if you've a mind to.

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2006-02-04 20:01  

#6  As for the Hayward Fault, it poses more of a danger to UC Berkeley itself (the fault runs firectly under Cal's Memorial Stadium) than LLNL.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-02-04 14:07  

#5  Just because people move to Livermore doesn't matter. It's still nowhere.

Even when Livermore was less populated, it was never really considered to be a nowhere sort of place, because its proximity to the Bay Area is well within what would be considered a reasonable drive distance.

Looking for a perfect example of Nowheresville? I have just the place: Hawthorne, NV.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-02-04 14:02  

#4  B-A-R

Just because people move to Livermore doesn't matter. It's still nowhere.

The big issue is the Hayward fault.
Posted by: Penguin   2006-02-04 13:23  

#3  To anyone who lives in the Bay Area, Livermore is in the middle of nowhere.

Not in recent years. The exorbitantly high price of housing here in the South Bay has driven many people further eastward, Livermore among those destinations. If you're ever in the area, take a drive on Vasco Rd. south from I-580; after about a half a mile LLNL (that's what it's called on signage in the area) will be visible on the left. But to the right is the eastern edge of a tract of homes built within the last ten or fifteen years.

As for the machine guns, here's a video of a news clip on this from a local TV news prog. (click on the link labeled: "Lawrence Livermore Adds Big Gun")
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-02-04 13:20  

#2  Yeah, but I know where Livermore is. Put the lab someplace really remote, like the Jornada del Muerto.
Posted by: Whutch Threth6418   2006-02-04 11:47  

#1  To anyone who lives in the Bay Area, Livermore is in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: Penguin   2006-02-04 11:18  

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