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More on defense of plutonium pile in Livermore CA |
2006-02-04 |
I left a post about this a few days ago, here's more info.Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory plans to install high-powered machine guns over the next few months capable of hitting land vehicles or aircraft almost a mile away in the event of a terrorist attackShould do wonders for real estate values within a few miles of the lab... I know little about weaponry, but I much doubt these would be of use against air attack. "A lot of people are willing to die if they can kill lots of Americans ... You want to make clear that when they come here to die (by attacking the lab), they die for a failure," the blunt-speaking Brooks said at a press conference at Livermore on Thursday, where he unveiled one of the guns. 2004 Security Failure Exposed In February 2004, an intruder managed to drive a truck inside the Livermore site security perimeter. During the incident guards failed to activate recently installed pop-up barriers, according to a report six months later by the Energy Department's inspector general. I'm not an anti-nuclear activist, but I think these facilities should be located in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure the scientists & techs at the lab like living in the Bay Area, but it's just asking for trouble. |
Posted by:Whutch Threth6418 |
#7 Hey Bomb-a-rama, where do you live? I live in Antioch just over the hills from Livermore and know the area well. I also work at LBNL and the Hayward fault runs about 50 meters from our main gate. Send me message off-list if you've a mind to. |
Posted by: FOTSGreg 2006-02-04 20:01 |
#6 As for the Hayward Fault, it poses more of a danger to UC Berkeley itself (the fault runs firectly under Cal's Memorial Stadium) than LLNL. |
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2006-02-04 14:07 |
#5 Just because people move to Livermore doesn't matter. It's still nowhere. Even when Livermore was less populated, it was never really considered to be a nowhere sort of place, because its proximity to the Bay Area is well within what would be considered a reasonable drive distance. Looking for a perfect example of Nowheresville? I have just the place: Hawthorne, NV. |
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2006-02-04 14:02 |
#4 B-A-R Just because people move to Livermore doesn't matter. It's still nowhere. The big issue is the Hayward fault. |
Posted by: Penguin 2006-02-04 13:23 |
#3 To anyone who lives in the Bay Area, Livermore is in the middle of nowhere. Not in recent years. The exorbitantly high price of housing here in the South Bay has driven many people further eastward, Livermore among those destinations. If you're ever in the area, take a drive on Vasco Rd. south from I-580; after about a half a mile LLNL (that's what it's called on signage in the area) will be visible on the left. But to the right is the eastern edge of a tract of homes built within the last ten or fifteen years. As for the machine guns, here's a video of a news clip on this from a local TV news prog. (click on the link labeled: "Lawrence Livermore Adds Big Gun") |
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2006-02-04 13:20 |
#2 Yeah, but I know where Livermore is. Put the lab someplace really remote, like the Jornada del Muerto. |
Posted by: Whutch Threth6418 2006-02-04 11:47 |
#1 To anyone who lives in the Bay Area, Livermore is in the middle of nowhere. |
Posted by: Penguin 2006-02-04 11:18 |