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'Offensive' remarks taken straight from Koran, defence says
2006-01-22
Via Western Resistance
COPIES of the Koran were handed to the jurors in the Abu Hamza trial yesterday as his defence argued that some of the cleric’s “offensive” statements were drawn directly from Islam’s holy book.
Which doesn't make them any less offensive.
Edward Fitzgerald, QC, for the defence, said that Abu Hamza’s interpretation of the Koran was that it imposed an obligation on Muslims to do jihad and fight in the defence of their religion. He said that the Crown case against the former imam of Finsbury Park Mosque was “simplistic in the extreme”.

He added: “It is said he was preaching murder, but he was actually preaching from the Koran itself.”
"Which was preaching murder. Yer honor, this is an entirely different thing! Any litigator can see that!"
Mr Fitzgerald cited two verses of the book that Abu Hamza would rely on, among many others, as theological justification for the words that had led to him being charged. They were Chapter 2, verse 216 and Chapter 9, verse 111. He said that all the great monotheistic religions had scriptures that contained “the language of blood and retribution”.
Which doesn't make blowing up stuff right today.
Abu Hamza’s remarks, which the prosecution alleges amount to an attempt to stir up racial hatred against the Jewish people, were, Mr Fitzgerald said, a reference to the Hadith — sayings of the Prophet Muhammad — in which fighting between Jews and Muslims is predicted. The Hadith says that the trees will call out to the Muslims “there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him”.

The defence counsel said this was “a highly unusual case” because unlike most prosecutions for incitement to murder it did not involve someone telling a specific person to kill an identifiable individual.

Abu Hamza’s sermons had to be viewed in context, coinciding with conflicts in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bosnia, Kosovo and the Palestinian territories. Mr Fitzgerald said that the West had initially been on the side of the Mujahidin in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Soviet Union army. There had even been a James Bond film, The Living Daylights, in which 007 fought alongside the Mujahidin.

He added: “Mr Hamza has said things that most people will find deeply offensive and hateful. But he is not on trial for describing England as a toilet. There is no crime of simply being offensive.”
Posted by:ed

#6  Ditto Patriot!
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-01-22 16:02  

#5  Oooooo, what HE said! This puts Islam itself on trial. We now have direct proof that it's the religion that preaches hate, and the Imams just repeat it. Not a smart move for Hazma or his defence lawyers. Wake the world up to just what we're up against, why don't you?

Yes, there is blood and gore in all religious teachings, but only ONE religion is based solely on blood and gore - Islam. It's time to quit playing games and eliminate such a wicked and unrepentant murderous blood cult. As someone mentioned on my blog a couple of days ago, Christianity is the religion of loving thy neighbor, Judiasm is the religion of redemtpion of God's Chosen, and Islam is the religion of hate. Yet they're all supposed to derive from the same God, and the same origin. Something got twisted, and I don't think it's Christianity or Judiasm. Time to clean out the sewers.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-01-22 15:52  

#4  Ah yes. The "Allah made me do it" defense.

Thin, thin ice.
Posted by: Hupomoger Clans9827   2006-01-22 13:39  

#3  It is said he was preaching murder, but he was actually preaching from the Koran itself.

This should put a major dent into the "Religion of Peace" meme. The defense is on very dangerous ground here.

It is true that there is lots of blood and thunder in old scriptures. However, religions adapted to the modern world have outgrown advocating the murder of unbelievers and don't consider killing infidels a central tenent of belief.
Posted by: SteveS   2006-01-22 13:01  

#2  I didn't see this and attempted a duplicate post.

sorry
Posted by: mhw   2006-01-22 10:42  

#1  "There is no crime of simply being offensive.”

You just wait! We're workin' on that in the great U S of A! We're gonna fix it so NOTHIN's offensive to NOBODY!

Sigh...
Posted by: Bobby   2006-01-22 08:22  

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