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Chinese Now Claim Discovery of America
2006-01-13
China map lays claim to Americas


A map due to be unveiled in Beijing and London next week may lend weight to a theory a Chinese admiral discovered America before Christopher Columbus.
The map, which shows North and South America, apparently states that it is a 1763 copy of another map made in 1418.

If true, it could imply Chinese mariners discovered and mapped America decades before Columbus' 1492 arrival.


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

The map, which is being dated to check it was made in 1763, faces a lot of scepticism from experts.

Chinese characters written beside the map say it was drawn by Mo Yi Tong and copied from a map made in the 16th year of the Emperor Yongle, or 1418.

It clearly shows Africa and Australia.

The British Isles, however, are not marked.

Controversial claim

The map was bought for about $500 from a Shanghai dealer in 2001 by a Chinese lawyer and collector, Liu Gang.

According to the Economist magazine, Mr Liu only became aware of the map's potential significance after he read a book by British author Gavin Menzies.

The book, 1421: The Year China discovered America, made the controversial claim that a Chinese admiral and eunuch, Zheng He, sailed around the world and discovered America on the way.


When you are not distracted, discovery of other things becomes easy

Zheng He, a Muslim mariner and explorer, is widely thought to have sailed around South East Asia and India, but the claim he visited America is hotly disputed.

The map is now being tested to check the age of its paper and ink, with the results due to be known in February.

Even if it does prove to have been drawn in 1763, sceptics will point out that we still only have the mapmaker's word that he copied if from a 1418 map, rather than from a more recent one.

But for some, this would still not make the Chinese admiral the first modern discoverer of the Americas, as they believe that Viking Leif Eriksson sailed to north America in the year 1000.


L'Anse Aux Meadows - Viking Settlement
Newfoundland c.1000



Posted by:BigEd

#13  BE -- How did you get past 4, 15, and...




Lol. Hep me, I'm falling...
Posted by: .com   2006-01-13 23:52  

#12  Damn you, Big Ed, lol!

What was the topic? Something about the Middle Kingdom?

Fuck China. Fuck Islam. History's dustbin will greet them the same as Arabism, Mullahism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism, Maoism, Moonbatism, Trazism, OWG, AlleyOopism, Paleoism, Revisionism, and all the rest. Real no-shit Individual Freedom, once tasted, is the greatest, most addicting, thing since sex.

Now about those pix, Big Ed...
Posted by: .com   2006-01-13 23:42  

#11  I have the book and read 1421 - It seemed logical enough. Then I watched the author on a PBS special.

I am sorry to say... he's a total bs artist.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-01-13 23:28  

#10  So what? A great many peoples had contact with the Americas over the centuries. They are now saying that the ancient Egyptians got tobacco from South America for use in mummification. What matters is who settled the land successfully, and that would be those who followed on Columbus' discoveries en masse: the Spanish to what is now the Hispanic-American countries, and the English to North America. You snooze, you lose, as it is said.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-01-13 22:23  

#9  Notice the map displays Antartica and the passage above North America facts that wouldn't become known for centuries later. Hitler's Diaries Part Duex. Yeah, I can wash some old parchment and create something 'new' on it. Doesn't pass the huh test.
Posted by: Shitle Elmaviger5770   2006-01-13 22:04  

#8  "Zheng He, a Muslim mariner and explorer"
Takes a Muslim to claim the whole world.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-01-13 21:04  

#7  Yep, surprise surprise Sgt Carter Clintonian Fascist = Commie Amerika is in reality ancient Chinese territory, ergo China is "justified" in planning the extermination of 200 Milyuhn Zilyuhn Amerikans, including but not limited to the bulk ifff not all of the US Left. Besides, ala the US Ninth America is still an illegal and unconstitutional nation, whose decision is still legal but just no action being taken to immediately enforce it, thus the USA as a matter of NinthLaw cannot arrest, prosecute, or jail anyone from rapist US Dem Presidents to Saddam Hussein, etal. to ......OWG Chicoms engaged in "managed" planned lawful holocaust opon their own unannexed territory formerly known as America.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2006-01-13 20:59  

#6  Zheng He probably peed on the Antartic ice as well.
That land is also part of the motherland...

Posted by: john   2006-01-13 20:01  

#5  I've said this repeatedly; The Chinese have maps showing just about every square inch of this planet, save Antarctica, as some sort of prior possession of China. A whole beachful of sand will have to be pounded up the communist Mandarins' @ss before they will finally STFU.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-01-13 19:53  

#4  good thing they waited to build our railroads until we crackers got here, huh?
Posted by: Frank G   2006-01-13 19:46  

#3  Did Zheng He take a dump in what is now Manhatten ?
Clearly, this land is historically Chinese territory and must be returned to the motherland. No yankee splittist plots will prevent this.

Posted by: john   2006-01-13 19:36  

#2  But then the Irish may have got there first. They certainly got Iceland before the Vikings did.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-01-13 19:34  

#1  Please move to Page 3...

Or to 2 if you think it is related to China flexing their propoganda miuscles...
Sorry
Posted by: BigEd   2006-01-13 19:27  

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