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| Saudi Professor of Islamic Law on Saudi TV Exhorts Muslims to "Positive Hatred" of Christians |
| 2006-01-12 |
| Sheikh Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law at Al-ImamUniversity, who frequently appears on Saudi TV recently made anti-Christian comments on Saudi Al-Majd TV. He told his audience to hate anyone "who worships Christ, son of Mary" and added that "whoever says 'I don't hate him [i.e. a Christian]' is not a Muslim..." He went on to explain that such an attitude "is not racism" since the Christian is not hated "because of his color, gender, blood, country, or because he is American, European, Chinese, or Asian," and stipulated that this hatred should be "positive hatred" that guides and reforms. TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT: http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=992 [...] Muslims Must Hate Christians With "Positive Hatred" - December 16, 2005, Al-Majd TV Al-Fawzan: "Someone who denies Allah, worships Christ, son of Mary, and claims that God is one third of a trinity - do you like these things he says and does? Don’t you hate the faith of such a polytheist who says God is one third of a trinity, or who worships Christ, son of Mary? "Someone who permits and commits fornication - as is the case in Western countries, where fornication is permitted and not considered a problem - don't you hate this? Whoever says 'I don't hate him' is not a Muslim, my brother." [...] "This is not racism, my brother. We don't hate a polytheist because of his color, gender, blood, country, or because he is American, European, Chinese, or Asian. They are our partners in humanity. An American Muslim may be better in Allah's view than all the Arabs." [...] "But if this person is an infidel - even if this person is my mother or father, God forbid, or my son or daughter - I must hate him, his heresy, and his defiance of Allah and His prophet. I must hate his abominable deeds. Moreover, this hatred must be positive hatred. It should make me feel compassion for him, and should make me guide and reform him." |
| Posted by:3dc |
| #19 lotp "And yes, HF, the name embeds tribal identity. My point is that there are far more substantive things to criticize than the fact that he uses a name in the form of names common to his country and ethnic identity. As do most of the people in our society as well. But if that's the level at which you can critique him, fire away." Ummm... I'm not the Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen today. Sometimes I am, but today, I'm the Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen since my 88mm has been misfiring. Damn those B-17s! Ever since the car accident, my critiquing skills have been reduced to ethnic humor. P.S.: I lived in Saudi (Jeddah) and worked for Saudis for three-and-a-half years, so yes, I do know about names and such. Abu = friend of Bint = daughter of Bin = son of Al-Saud = Royal family Al Sheikh = Related to Al-Wahhab |
| Posted by: The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-12 19:57 |
| #18 I wanna give some Negative Love, baby. |
| Posted by: Joluck Snaque8678 2006-01-12 16:30 |
| #17 ...but it's a good kind of hate. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2006-01-12 16:03 |
| #16 "Moreover, this hatred must be positive hatred. It should make me feel compassion for him, and should make me guide and reform him." I believe that the professor's Islamic "positive hatred" is a very twisted cousin to what Christians call "love" -- hate the sin but love the sinner; punish the sin but forgive the sinner. Jesus loved everybody that could be saved. Islam hates everybody until such time as they submit. Makes for a very ugly world. |
| Posted by: Darrell Bin Gordon 2006-01-12 15:58 |
| #15 Yup, 'abd' means 'servant' or 'slave' and 'bin' means 'son'. (And 'Abu' means 'father' ....) Typed faster than my brain was working .... LOL And yes, HF, the name embeds tribal identity. My point is that there are far more substantive things to criticize than the fact that he uses a name in the form of names common to his country and ethnic identity. As do most of the people in our society as well. But if that's the level at which you can critique him, fire away. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-01-12 14:54 |
| #14 Sheikh Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan Let's all hope that, somewhere, this name is being penciled in on the dance card of a hunter-killer team. Again, why is this administration sitting still for state sponsored Saudi Arabia needs to begin finding a major price tag attached to this horrendous hatemongering. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2006-01-12 13:04 |
| #13 "Someone who permits and commits fornication - as is the case in Western countries, where fornication is permitted and not considered a problem ..." As opposed to the ME where pedophilia and camel-doinking are common and approved? "This is not racism, my brother. We don't hate a polytheist because of his color, gender, blood, country, or because he is American, European, Chinese, or Asian. Yes, we're equal opportunity haters here as attested to by the EHOC. |
| Posted by: Xbalanke 2006-01-12 12:23 |
| #12 "Positive Hatred" is that like a Progressive thing? |
| Posted by: ed 2006-01-12 12:04 |
| #11 Does it mean hating Hugo Chavez? |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-01-12 11:59 |
| #10 "There's lots to criticize about this guy and his pronouncements without resorting to elementary school playground kinds of taunts about names." In case you missed the train, it happens that fun and taunts are part of what makes Rantburg so enjoyable. As for forgetting ancestral languages, it's call evolving and moving beyond a primitive association with a rural, peasant, pre-modern form of existence. Read Barrington Moore, Jr. on the "Social Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy: Lord and Peasant in the Making of the Modern World." After you're done, come back and talk about playground taunts. |
| Posted by: The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-12 11:38 |
| #9 Does it mean hating Hugo Chavez? |
| Posted by: gromgoru 2006-01-12 11:30 |
| #8 Wheat Crunchie! |
| Posted by: RD 2006-01-12 10:58 |
| #7 No big deal, he's just reiterating what Mein Koranf says. |
| Posted by: Wheat Crunchie 2006-01-12 10:33 |
| #6 Abd = servant of or slave of Bin = son of. |
| Posted by: ed 2006-01-12 10:29 |
| #5 If I'm not mistaken, 'abd' also translates as 'slave' Abdullah = Slave of Allah I s'pose that in Arabia, 'son of' and 'slave of' could mean pretty much the same thing. |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-01-12 10:20 |
| #4 AF, lots of westerners have similar names - they've just forgotten that fact because they no longer speak their ancestral languages. Templeton = "Temple town" Robertson = "Robert's son" Abd Aziz = "Aziz's son" al-Fazwan = "from Fazwan" There's lots to criticize about this guy and his pronouncements without resorting to elementary school playground kinds of taunts about names. |
| Posted by: lotp 2006-01-12 09:59 |
| #3 "Positive hatred"? Is that some sort of self-esteem thingy? |
| Posted by: Seafarious 2006-01-12 09:51 |
| #2 Sheikh Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan. What kind of an idiotic name is that? The name itself might partially explain the extreme, unhinged anger in the Magic Kingdom. Imagine if your name was Harry Bush or Craven Buttholtz? Now imagine if we had the name-structures of the Soddies -- Harry Bush Al-Bush or Craven Buttholtz Al-Buttholtz. You'd be pretty pissed off too. Praise be Allan! |
| Posted by: The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-12 08:50 |
| #1 Well, he'll get lots of support from local leftists. |
| Posted by: Jackal 2006-01-12 08:21 |