You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: WoT
I got my free Koran the other day and it is .....
2006-01-10
.... quite impressive.

After the newsweak article on Koran flushing, I got to thinking (as many others did too), how can you flush a book down a toilet? I have one of those, ahem, larger thrones myself and I couldn't fathom how any book could be flushed down unless it went through a paper shredder. I thought even a small bible could never be flushed, but I wasn't sure how physically large a Koran was and decided to find out. I got the Koran completely free of charge when I went to the CAIR website, accepted their offer to educate me and provided my home address. My-oh-my.

The book itself is absolutely first-class and large. Everything (paper, printing, cover, etc.) used in it is excellent quality. It is very well formatted and documented. CAIR obviously hired a expensive and professional publishing firm to create and print it. In the store, a book like this would be at least $100.

I thought everyone needs one of these and suggest anyone who is willing to provide their address to CAIR get one.

I have been looking it over, but specifically have been looking into one event: The "Night Journey". This is when Mo went to Heaven on a winged horse, supposedly from Jerusalem. When I read the chapter however, Jerusalem was in brackets [Jersalem] which would normally indicate a substitution. But for what?

Now, here is what I want to see if an RBer knows: I understand that this 'night journey actually happens at the furthest mosque. When Mo was alive, there were no mosques in Jerusalem and the 'furthest mosque' would have been in Madinah. Correct? Anyone have any comments on this?
Posted by:Brett

#4  So are the pages soft enough to use for.....??

That's about the only way I can think of to flush it.

Personally I wouldn't want CAIR to have my home address.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-01-10 22:52  

#3  Not necessarily the definitive translation -- there's no consensus on that -- but clearly it's CAIR's favorite translation. Which makes sense, as CAIR is basically the US propaganda arm of Hamas.

Posted by: ST   2006-01-10 21:06  

#2  So essentially a converted Jew, a guy obviously weaned on the intricacies of the Talmud, was the guy who wrote the definitive translation of their bible.

Lucky for him he was a prisoner of the British during WWII.

Thanks ST for pointing out that article. It was very interesting.
Posted by: Penguin   2006-01-10 20:49  

#1  I got a free Qur'an from CAIR too (shortly before I moved far far away, that is). I was stunned at the weight and quality too -- $55 at Amazon.

Much depends on the translator -- Muhammad Asad's is the one CAIR sends out. I'd heard that it's an especially anti-Jewish version, so I did a little digging.

Very interesting. Asad was born Leopold Weiss in 1900 in the Austrian Empire. Son of a long line of rabbis, he studied in Vienna around the same time Hitler did. A fierce opponent of Zionism, he spent the rest of the 1920s in Jerusalem and the Middle East, where he fell in love with Mohammedans and converted.

As I understand it, Mo's magical journey was from Mecca to Jerusalem. He supposedly made the trip (of several hundred miles, obviously) in one night. Mo & Co. initially prayed in the direction of Jerusalem, since he was trying to build his own prophethood on the legitimacy of existing religions, i.e., Christianity and Judaism.

Anyway, at some point he said f*ck it and decided Mecca was the holiest place in Islam, and so now all butts point away from Mecca instead of Jerusalem. But I think the reason the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem is super-holy is because of Mo's trip there on a magic carpet or whatever.

My favorite part of the Asad version is the consistent use of "deniers of truth" to refer to Christians and Jews. ROPMA.
Posted by: ST   2006-01-10 20:34  

00:00