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DIALOGUE WITH EUROPE IS USELESS, SAYS AHMADINEJAD
2006-01-03
The Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that there will be no dialogue with Europe because it is a waste of time. This point was underlined by the Iranian leader during his first appearance in front of the committee of foreign affairs and national security of the Majlis, the parliament in Tehran.

"The president, defined the attempts by the governments of the past 16 years to bring to the table a dialogue with Europe and to try and reduce tensions, as a waste of time which has so far not produced any tangible results for our country," Kazem Jalali, a member of the commission, told the media.

"The policies of the previous governments, has distanced the Islamic republic from its revolutionary origins and produced a damaging laxity," added Jalali who was quoting the words used by Ahmadinejad.

The governments that Ahmadinejad was criticising are those of the former presidents Mohammad Khatami and Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. Rafsanjani had taken part to the "critical dialogue" with the European Union while during his presidency, Khatami participated in a "constructive dialogue".

In his meeting with the various leaders of the committee, Ahmadinejad also spoke of the nuclear negotiations. "No negotiations with any countries or bodies on the activities of the plants in Isfahan and Natanza," said Ahmadinejad. The plant in Isfahan, currently active, is where raw uranium is transformed into gas, while in Natanza the centrifuges have been arranged for the necessary enrichment of the uranium.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also told the parlimentarians about his last two proposals to send Iranian observers to Europe, to evaluate the respect of human rights in the West, and the formation of a international scientific committee to evaluate the truthfulness behind the Holocaust. "The committee received this final proposal by Ahmadinejad with enthusiasm," said Kazem Jalali.

The president of the Majlis, Ali Asghar Haddad Adel, also welcomed these two proposals. "To examine all the documents related to the Holocaust and to hear the diverse opinions to this proposal, permits a clarification that will produce very positive results and will put an end once and for all to the divergence that dominates this historical fact," said Haddad Adel.

For Hamid Reza Asefi, the spokesman for Iran's foreign ministry, "sending Islamic observers to the West to evaluate the situation of human rights in Europe, allows for a joint evaluation on what are the rights that really have to be guaranteed to citizens."
Posted by:ed

#26  Zenster: Berlin is in range of Iran's missles now.
Posted by: Bardo   2006-01-03 23:17  

#25  All the toys just enhance the combat effectiveness of a team. A wise old COL told me once that complicated and technical warfighting is just a bunch of "ten level" tasks, ten level is very basic tasks. His point was even the most technical event is just a string of very basic tasks. 4th ID may have all the newest toys, but they just help but do not replace the basic, ten level, tasks all combat is centered around. They will fight with or without the toys and win because they are drilled at basic tasks until the tasks are second nature. The toys will never replace soldier skills and crew drills.
Posted by: 49 pan   2006-01-03 23:14  

#24  *hug* Sherry. Let's hope you're right -- I want this thing over, and soon. Too much nastiness is hanging over us all, despite all the lovely lunches the EU negotiators have been eating, and the longer we wait the worse it will be. I want Elder of Zion and gromgorru to be able to sleep without worrying that they might not wake up again. Stay strong, dear, ok?
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-01-03 22:51  

#23  Well RWV -- of course, I acquisence to your knowledge of the Army's "Digital Division", the testbed for developing the way to fight with all the new toys, with "situational awareness."

Not sure I understand what you mean about being able to operate without all the equipment. They run out of batteries? Guess they need to take the Energizer Bunny with 'em.

But -- I did see a train recently. Set and watched as it moved south, moving toward the Gulf. It was blocking my way! But for once, I didn't care about the blocking. It was rolling south from Ft. Hood, loaded down with every piece of war vehicle I've ever seen in any war movie I've every watched. Had the trucks, had the tanks, had the troops transports.... much looked the same ole, same ole to me.

'Course, I was lookin' through some tears, so I admit to......
Posted by: Sherry   2006-01-03 22:30  

#22  Sherry, I'd like to think you are right, but consider that the 4th ID was the Army's "Digital Division", the testbed for developing the way to fight with all the new toys, with "situational awareness." Having optimized the organization and tactics to use the new weapons, I'm not sure they could go back to operating without the equipment.
Posted by: RWV   2006-01-03 21:52  

#21  The 4th ID just arrived, fresh, somewhere in southern Iraq. And from reading local stuff, they have been undergoing extensive training, with more and more of that high tech equipment they are given. -- some they've had for at least 6 months. Others were screaming for it... but..... the 4th kept hands on, saying they needed it all for training.

Not knowing anything more about it.. but seems like this might just be overkill for Iraq. And we all know.... our military has a plan for everything -- even invading Canada that got so much attention last week.

4th ID missed out on most of the fun with Saddam (alto, they did capture him). They are ready. And which group is it that is kinda gonna hang around in Kuwait instead of going into Iraq?

Yes, a plan for everything
Posted by: Sherry   2006-01-03 21:06  

#20  you gotta admit it is somewhat refreshing the way the jihadis just go ahead and call us out and tell us they think they can kick our as&.

Always remind me of that song - A Little Less Talk & a Lot More Action
Posted by: 2b   2006-01-03 20:31  

#19  Thank you, Seafarious
Posted by: Secret Master   2006-01-03 20:26  

#18  We need an Ahmadinejad image with crosshairs.
Posted by: Darrell   2006-01-03 20:02  

#17  So now there will be another way besides demographic takeover for radical Islam to make war and possibly conquer Euroland and make it into a great northern caliphate.

The real question now becomes this....

Is the demographic assault to outbreed the emasculated and declining EUros plan A, or plan B?

Could be a scary answer to that question.
Posted by: no mo uro   2006-01-03 19:26  

#16  
BUSH ALLOWED IRAN TO ACQUIRE NUKES

The next Dem. talking points.
Posted by: macofromoc   2006-01-03 18:25  

#15  Yeah, that soft power - like a limp peepee, it's not capable of a hell of a whole lot of action....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2006-01-03 18:24  

#14  I'm sure that the EU will respond with a very sternly worded statement. Hey, I know it's harsh, but the guy is practically asking for it.

Don't know if we've deployed a 'Rods from God' prototype. If so, I'd like to suggest a 'test' target.
Posted by: DMFD   2006-01-03 18:22  

#13  DIALOGUE WITH EUROPE IS USELESS, SAYS AHMADINEJAD

Why do you think he's building all those missiles? It would seem that Europe is the only one who doesn't get this blindingly obvious fact.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-01-03 18:22  

#12  This ass has gotten two things right so far. First thing he got right, while he had Carter bent over a fence post, was to not cross Regan. Second was this "waste of time" EU statement. Now Bush needs to not waste any more time and strike Teheran and turn it to rubble. Those power plants he's building will make plenty of radioactive waste cabable of massive dirty boming campaigns.
Posted by: 49 pan   2006-01-03 18:22  

#11  Well, we got the Bad Cop™ with Ahmadinejad, but I have not seen the Good Cop™ routine with anyone else in the Iranian govt. Soooooooo.......The MMs have laid down the gauntlet to the EUniks. We know that France will grovel before Iran, hell they do it domestically. But what will the EU do now that their hole card (negotiate ad nausium) has been taken away? It's show time, folks. Iran is calling your bluff. Ante up and show your cards, or fold. Time is running out.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-01-03 18:06  

#10  Gimme an "S", gimme an "O", gimme an "F", gimme a "T", gimme a "P", gimme a "O", gimme a "W", gimme an "E", gimme an "R"!!!!!

WHADDA YA GOT???? oh, ermmm, nothing...just forget about it, okay.
Posted by: AlanC   2006-01-03 18:04  

#9  [Off topic note to Secret Master: Your question will publish with tomorrow's posts]

On topic note re Ahmadisnutz: I hope this doesn't mean Iran is ready to go live with their nukes. Eeeek!
Posted by: Seafarious   2006-01-03 17:35  

#8  Look for the stampede of European nations to give away the store to prove him wrong, thereby proving him right.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-01-03 17:33  

#7  The Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that there will be no dialogue with Europe because it is a waste of time.

He's right you know.
Posted by: Secret Master   2006-01-03 17:23  

#6  "To examine all the documents related to the Holocaust and to hear the diverse opinions to this proposal, permits a clarification that will produce very positive results and will put an end once and for all to the divergence that dominates this historical fact," said Haddad Adel.

Their time might be more productively spent in Hiroshima and Nagasaki rather than Buchenwald and Belsen-Bergen. But I can understand how they would be more comfortable in the later though the more important lesson for them is at the former.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-01-03 17:11  

#5  File under:

Stopped Clocks, Twice Daily Correctness of
Posted by: Dreadnought   2006-01-03 17:09  

#4  I'm anticipating all the hilarity that will ensue from the finding when Europe does not measure up to Islamic standards of human rights.
Posted by: ed   2006-01-03 17:03  

#3  My thoughts exactly, dotcom. It's the first lucid, coherent statement he's made.
Posted by: Tibor   2006-01-03 17:00  

#2  First thing he's gotten right.
Posted by: .com   2006-01-03 16:51  

#1  "The policies of the previous governments, has distanced the Islamic republic from its revolutionary origins and produced a damaging laxity," added Jalali who was quoting the words used by Ahmadinejad.

Thank you Jimmy Carter for dealing with this piece of human fecal matter so effectively in 1979.
Posted by: Besoeker   2006-01-03 16:39  

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