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| Israel Perspectives - Democratic States, âHellholesâ and Rights |
| 2005-12-31 |
| Thereâs a blog called Israel Perspectives: Feeling âRightâ at Home by Zeâev, a Zionist. I once posted to him full of my bluster and he calmly responded point for point. It was a decidedly different approach to the belligerence that I encountered at Rantburg.com or to the intimacy I encountered at My Egypt - My Love. In that brief exchange with Zeâev he made a number of interesting points. Iâll highlight just one. Basically, I paraphrased a quote included in a previous post (Making the Inconceivable Obvious): â⊠in the eyes of many, including Israeliâs and former Israeliâs, the idea of a Jewish State (i.e., Zionism) is the idea of racism, colonialism and unprogressive social laws regarding non-Jews. It is this evolving character of the Jewish State and how it runs counter to the humanistic and progressive views of the liberal democracies (themselves being severely challenged at present) that causes many to seriously question the practical consequences of Zionism.â Zeâve responded: âYou are correct in your assessment that the idea of a Jewish State does not fit in well in a world based on progressive, liberal, secular democracies⊠but does that mean that the Jewish people have less of a right to a State of their own, in their Homeland b/c of it? The right of the Jewish people to a Jewish State in the Land of Israel does not come from the UN, or the US, or the EU, it comes from G-d and the Bible - and without that - we have no right whatsoever to be here⊠â read more at willtotruth.com |
| Posted by:Claper Choluter8856 |
| #7 What ever happened to Wee Willi Winki? Things too hot for him here on the Rantburg? |
| Posted by: SR-71 2005-12-31 23:49 |
| #6 Just trying to gin up some hits. |
| Posted by: Jineck Spomoque9912 2005-12-31 23:40 |
| #5 Ah, that lovely word 'progressive' and all it entails in the historically determined march toward the golden city on the hill, where all is perfect equality and harmony. Of course it's the great lie of the Left and inevitably leads to loss of freedoms and state coercion when people don't want 'progress' as defined by the 'progressives' when they see its consequences. Worse, when the barbarians are at the gate, it invites them in to discuss the bribes needed to keep them happy. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-12-31 22:57 |
#4 the idea of a Jewish State does not fit in well in aAt last! Somebody actually admits it. I notice "liberals" have absolutely NO problem with a multitude of repressive, misogynistic,terrorist-supporting, murdering moslem societies in their "world based on progressive, liberal, secular democracies." Hmmmmm. Notice a pattern here? >:-( |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-12-31 18:25 |
| #3 oops! in the ME |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-12-31 17:53 |
| #2 If defenders of the only established democracy (willing Iraq to continue) are "Zionist Tools" then register me, unapologetically |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-12-31 17:52 |
| #1 You're barking up the wrong tree...Rantburgers are usually derided as Zionist tools? I don't get it. |
| Posted by: gromky 2005-12-31 17:47 |