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More CIA leaks on rendition
2005-12-07
Original title: "if you want good interrogation send suspects to Jordan, if you want them dead, send them to Egypt or Syria: Ex-CIA official"
LONDON — CIA agents have broken ranks to reveal the ‘cruel and inhuman’ interrogation techniques they are ordered to use at secret prisons around the world, including freezing and near-drowning. Amid a growing row in the US over torture, a list of “enhanced interrogation techniques” used by CIA agents in secret prisons — including near-drowning, freezing, sleep deprivation, shaking and slapping — has been leaked. In at least one case, a prisoner has died.

The techniques have been authorised for use at CIA ‘black sites’ abroad, at which top terror suspects are held. Last week the US-based organisation Human Rights Watch said, “ghost detainees” were held at two military bases, in Poland and Romania. Similar sites in half a dozen other countries, including Afghanistan, Thailand and the Indian Ocean base of Diego Garcia, leased from Britain, are now said to have been closed.

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Colin Powell when he was US secretary of state, said last week that he knew of more than 70 “questionable deaths” of detainees under US supervision up to the end of 2002, when he left office. That figure, he added, was now around 90. These incidents are in addition to the increasingly well-documented practice of “rendition”: flying suspects to Middle Eastern countries where torture and deaths in custody are routine. “If you want a good interrogation, you send them to Jordan. If you want them dead, you send them to Egypt or Syria,” one former CIA agent is reported in the media as saying.

America's covert forces are operating in a climate of impunity, described by Cofer Black, then CIA counter-terrorism chief, who told a congressional committee in 2002: “After 9/11, the gloves were off.” At one point, according to ‘Newsweek’, the Bush administration formally told the CIA it could not be prosecuted for any technique short of inflicting the kind of pain that accompanies organ failure or death.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  We are - they are at war with US.
Posted by: sadly true   2005-12-07 20:01  

#13  Tex

I agree the cleaning process is working, however a few agents in jail and on trial with no bond gaged and a few reporters who run these stories in the same boat until they rat out thier sources would go along long long way real quick. It would only take a handfull of heads for everyone to get the point. no tolerance We Are At War
Posted by: C-Low   2005-12-07 18:29  

#12  IM(H)O the problems with the CIA will get worse until the new National Clandestine Service (NCS) takes over and the Negroponte/Ross team complete the "cleaning" process. Maybe all these leaks and things show that the process has started and is working.
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-12-07 15:58  

#11  Sounds like an over promoted Smithers.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-12-07 15:53  

#10  I can see why DOD went with Able Danger. They had to get beyond the game playing and get reliable, hard intelligence, and all the BS PC games being played at the FBI and CIA was impeding national security. Someone had to get the job done. Someone had to do the real work.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-12-07 15:30  

#9  Catch these treasonous scumbags and break their fingers - all the way up to their collarbones.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2005-12-07 15:14  

#8  Might be a good time for layoffs at:
CIA
State
FBI
Anybody a registered dem.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-12-07 13:46  

#7  These leakers should be rounded up imprisoned no bail gaged and tried for Sedition or Treason. Wether they agree with current methods or not disclosing publicly those methods knowing full well they are clasified and harmfull to those methods sucess is ciriminal treason and should be procecuted. Also the reporters who print these stories should be rounded up and forced to reveal these sources if not imprisoned gaged and held until source is revealed. National security trumps all this publbic need to know crap. Poland and Romania strong allies are paying for these leaks and by that we are paying as-well. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson wether he directley leaked classified info or not the fact of his postition makes his loose accusations sound factual and thereby he is either leaking or lying either way its Sedition or Treason.

I do agree Bush's doing what the media wont do on Iraq and the WOT making the case pointing out success but he is starting to now hopefully when he finally turns the moral back around I suspect will be back by Febuary I hope he keeps the momentum and keeps the people rallied to the point were any oposition will be a suicide mission.
Posted by: C-Low   2005-12-07 13:01  

#6  GW will be as effective dealing with this as he's been on getting the message of real progress in Iraq out to the public.

Hes has been a miserable failure communicating to the public and dealing with the rogues in the CIA upt o this point. Why would he change anything now?
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2005-12-07 11:34  

#5  Washingotn Sketch - Dana Milbank
Thursday, October 20, 2005; Page A04

As Colin Powell's right-hand man at the State Department, Larry Wilkerson seethed quietly during President Bush's first term. Yesterday, Colonel Wilkerson made up for lost time. He said the vice president and the secretary of defense created a "Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal" that hijacked U.S. foreign policy. He said of former defense undersecretary Douglas Feith: "Seldom in my life have I met a dumber man." Addressing scholars, journalists and others at the New America Foundation, Wilkerson accused Bush of "cowboyism" and said he had viewed Condoleezza Rice as "extremely weak." Of American diplomacy, he fretted, "I'm not sure the State Department even exists anymore."

Notice how he "seethed" but didn't resign or retire in disgust. More convenient to wait until you retire, then throw a grenade through the door as you walk out, feed the media, and trash everybody. Right or wrong, I have no use for whores like this fellow.
Posted by: Besoeker   2005-12-07 08:49  

#4  If Wilerson's statements are true, and if the activities he discusses are illegal, then he may be protected by 'whistleblower' laws regardless of any oaths or secrecy laws.
Posted by: Glenmore   2005-12-07 08:22  

#3  I can't believe they aren't arresting Wilkerson, he has to be either violating the terms of his security clearance or making false statements.
Posted by: BillH   2005-12-07 05:30  

#2   Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Colin Powell when he was US secretary of state, said last week that he knew of more than 70 “questionable deaths” of detainees under US supervision up to the end of 2002, when he left office. That figure, he added, was now around 90.

sounds like bar stool agenda BS.
Posted by: Red Dog   2005-12-07 03:04  

#1  I wish the gloves were off - to include the handling of the seditious asstards in our Govt.
Posted by: .com   2005-12-07 02:58  

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