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Canada's CC-130s to Fail In 3 Years -- $4B for Replacements
2005-11-25
Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier recently said that "Our [CC-130 E/H] Hercules fleet right now is rapidly going downhill. We know that three years and a little bit more than that, the fleet starts to become almost completely inoperational and we will have to stop supporting operations - or else, not be able to start them." The CC-130 aircraft are used in a wide variety of roles, from tactical transport to aerial refueling and even search and rescue. The Canadian Forces do not own any other aircraft in a similar class.

With an election imminent, the minority-government Liberal Party of Canada has now announced that it will move forward with the competitive procurement of a new tactical airlift fleet for the Canadian Forces. The program is valued at between C$ 4-5 billion (USD $3.5-$4.3 billion), and will see the purchase of at least 16 new aircraft including a 20-year in-service support contract.

Plotting the potential contenders... The multi-national EADS Airbus A400M is due to enter service in late 2008 at the very earliest, and multiple deliveries would have to take place by early 2009 at the very latest in order to qualify for the Canadian contract.

Barring an extremely creative proposal, which is possible under the performance-based framework, Boeing's C-17 Globemaster III (USD $180-200 million per aircraft) is unlikely to fit within the program's budget parameters.

Lockheed, of course, can offer the C-130J Hercules or even the stretched C-130J-30. Indeed, that option has been dangled in front of the Canadian Forces before. In another potential deal, Britain had offered to lease Canada its nearly-new C-130Js, which would have left the RAF with stretched C-130J-30s and freed up funds for more C-17s. There is another potential contender... the Russian Ilyushin IL-76MD/TD Candid, which also comes in a stretched IL-76MF version

The C-130 replacement program may even be a harbinger of additional efforts to shore up the severely weakened Canadian armed forces. One is always wary of politicians making promises on the eve of elections, yet documents like the 2003 National Defence Strategic Capability Investment Plan, the 2005 defence budget increases, and recent Canadian defence policy statement suggest that this trend just might be real. Watching the progress and execution of the CC-130 replacement program will offer Canadians - and the broader world - a useful indicator of just how real.
Posted by:Pappy

#9  When a sub goes TU you HOPE you can surface. My dad spent four war patrols in a sub during WWII and got depth charged in the East China Sea. Scary, that.

Ship, can you please translate #4 into English?

Posted by: mom   2005-11-25 18:23  

#8  "at least when the sub goes tango uniform you can surface"

Not so fast, there, HG, lol.
Posted by: .com   2005-11-25 16:59  

#7  Yeah, blowing the tanks ona C-141 is a tricky piece of business.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-25 16:57  

#6  Based upon the Canadian MoD's experience with procuring recycled subs I'd shutter to think of piloting a recycled aircraft. Shhhsh...at least when the sub goes tango uniform you can surface. Surfacing an aircraft creates a new set of problems.
Posted by: Hupaviter Glerert9495   2005-11-25 16:35  

#5  Now there might soon be a special on these babies...

Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-25 15:20  

#4  Doc Ima think there're no flyable C-130s in the boneyard. They're gold. Maybe wings, the odd fitting, but C-130s are like liquid.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-25 15:08  

#3  We have plenty of older C-130s in the boneyards in Arizona and New Mexico. The Canadians can have 'em, cash and fly away. No warranty, caveat emptor, etc.
Posted by: Steve White   2005-11-25 14:17  

#2  There's panic in the zoomies lounge as the B/C-17s are starting to make advances towards Iraq. Nothing like hovering with a high flying transport and pushing JDAMs out the back. Don't need any top guns flying CAP anymore. Just some jokers who'd otherwise be flying rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong, opening the back door and having the Loadmaster kick another gift out to Hadji.
Posted by: Jinetle Clamp2837   2005-11-25 08:17  

#1  Time to subsidize the Canadian armed forces? I wish there was some way to get them about 20 C-17s. Unlikely. I also wish that there was some way to get the USAF about 120 more C-17s, even less likely.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-11-25 07:59  

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