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| Carter Aide: Chaney VP of Torture |
| 2005-11-17 |
| The Democrats are starting to roll out all their "heavy" guns. What's surprising is that Murtha didn't leave the country to make his statement. A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government. The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture". He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory". The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling. The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US. Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him". On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture. "He condones torture, what else is he?". Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction. No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility. Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam. He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans. Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned. |
| Posted by:Flolutle Ulailing6755 |
| #9 Jesus... these treasonous assholes just aren't going to shut up, are they? What the hell are we going to have to do to win this war-- round up Democrats and put them in internment camps, for cryin' out loud???? |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2005-11-17 23:44 |
| #8 A few words were omitted from the article. Let's edit it. who ran the CIA into the ground from 1977 to 1981, |
| Posted by: Jackal 2005-11-17 23:07 |
| #7 Right on target badanov. Stansfield Turner can go screw himself. He is a total disgrace to our nation. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-11-17 23:04 |
| #6 The Democrats are starting to roll out all their "heavy" guns. Wanna lob a return volley that would devastate Peanut Head and his lackeys? Create a commercial with a minute long montage of stills and video clips of the four hundred forty four day Iran hostage crisis, and end with a narrator's voice saying, "Former President Carter has no valid grounds on which to criticize the current administration for its actions in the Middle East...." Fade to black. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-11-17 22:57 |
| #5 it's also interesting that Reagan always gets the bad press for sending arms and money to the mujahaden in Afghanistan and it was (guess who) Jimmy (Peace Prize) that started the whole thing. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2005-11-17 22:10 |
| #4 The thing that burns my behind and builds the boiler pressure are statements from sanctimonious alpha hotels like Jimmuh and Turner about torture and other things in the midst of a war for our survival. These guys hide behind the defensive shield put up by the vigilance and even the sacrifice of lives of our military and spew out this crap without fear of retribution or personal harm. My buddy who was involved in the 1979 hostage rescue operation was abandoned in the mountains behind Teheran by Jimmuh's orders. He spent 4 months of hell escaping and evading out of Iran with his group of 4. You want to see fury, say Jimmuh and ask what he thinks of him. Stand back! |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-11-17 21:57 |
| #3 yup...Stansfield the horrible. Arguably the worst CIA Director (in terms of long term impacts) ever. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2005-11-17 21:54 |
| #2 I believe the Shah of Iran was also cut off at the knees to allow the ayatollah Khomenei to bless the world with its first islamofascist regime. Good call Stan. Did he help on Desert One also? Don't forget Angola. |
| Posted by: Thring Gleamp8938 2005-11-17 21:42 |
| #1 This is the asshole responsible for Iran Contra and emasculating the CIA. |
| Posted by: Captain America 2005-11-17 21:38 |