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| Bill Clinton: Immigration Crackdown Hurting U.S. | ||
| 2005-11-08 | ||
Ex-president Bill Clinton is arguing that tighter immigration laws are hurting America, saying the new restrictions aren't worth it even if they stop the "one out of a zillion [foreigners] who might have a bomb."
Clinton said the terror trade-off wasn't worth it. "When we got real tough on visas - because one out of a zillion of them might have a bomb - we lost a lot of brains. We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains."
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| Posted by:Steve |
| #20 My uncle is 1 of the top engineers in his field. He makes really good money. |
| Posted by: anonymous2u 2005-11-08 23:39 |
| #19 Ditto MAC. Thank GOD there are presidential term limits, he'd still be in the Whitehouse. Eight yeas of Slick, seemed like an eternity. HIV is not out of the question by the way, he's looking rather frail of late. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-08 20:23 |
| #18 I am so sick of this dope-smoking, philandering, draft-dodging coward. I keep hoping that I'll wake up some morning to read that he and that dyke bitch of a wife he's got have either cancer or fast-acting AIDS. We haven't had such an embarrassment in the White House since Harding. Clinton and wife deserve a painful, humiliating and protracted death. |
| Posted by: mac 2005-11-08 18:52 |
| #17 Er.... we have a few engineers on the site. None got in for the money (although it's not bad). I think you're wired differently to be an engineer... (and you probably rewired it yourself at one time or another). Too many schools sell the Sci and Eng spots to foreigners for the coin (out of country/out-of-state/live on campus) and turn down equally qualified citizens |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-11-08 18:15 |
| #16 Hupavirt Wholunter8378 is correct. Americans study the hard sciences and engineering because of internal need, not to make lots of money. If you want to earn the big bucks here, get a degree in Finance, or an MBA. Fortunately, there are enough Americans who do have that internal drive, and who trust that they can earn enough to live a comfortable life, that the creativity of this country is still unsurpassed, even before taking in all those ambitious foreigners. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-11-08 17:26 |
| #15 Well "BJ" Clinton, you are an idiot. You were getting a blowjob in the whitehouse when some crisis in the world was going on--which one was it you smuck? I saw a movie with Commander-in-cheat Geena Davis one time--maybe it was Thelma and Louise. Seems like she said "Well suck my dick." Definite case of penis envy. Hollywood--land of make believe. Wish it so and it becomes true. None of these folks are connected to reality. |
| Posted by: Youraveragesombitch 2005-11-08 16:07 |
| #14 Actually, my only question to this is: WHAT freakin' crackdown on illegal immigrants? |
| Posted by: BA 2005-11-08 13:21 |
| #13 Hupavirt: You might be right. Personally I'd rather be a Chinese pipefitter, and work with a nice ligh weight pi wench. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-08 13:18 |
| #12 Besoeker , Science and engineering careers are not as valued as you think. There arent many incentives to go into a career as an engineer, the horrible cost of schooling, then you get to make less money than the pipefitters on the job (know this from experience, not just talking shit). Science careers are even worse, you end up in a ratty lab testing leach water samples from the local landfill, or of course teaching science and making even less. Appealing isn't it. Guess you should go into IT or some other bullshit trendy career if you want to make a buck. |
| Posted by: Hupavirt Wholunter8378 2005-11-08 13:05 |
| #11 "Immigration Crackdown Hurting U.S." What he really means is: "Immigration Crackdown Hurting Dems' Chances for More Illegal Voters" |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-11-08 12:34 |
| #10 Blah, blah. Dems are really out of touch and getting more so by the day. You had a good run for the times, Bill. Now your're just a fossil, trying to get new converts to attend your traveling circus show where you make your money by selling them Mr. Peabody's Weight Loss and Baldness Cure - which, by the way also cures gout, heartburn, impotence and makes women's breasts larger. Sucker born every minute, right Bill? |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-11-08 11:20 |
| #9 But Cheaderhead....careers in science and engineering careers are valued in this country. The Immigration and Naturalization service (INS) and our very own accedamia have partnered to permit tens of thousands of eager Chinese students to come to the US each year to train, and prepare themselves to ACCEPT those careers! |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-08 11:20 |
| #8 How many of those foreign students stay in the US and how many return to their nation of origin to compete against the USA? Seems to me the Saudi's have proved the old they'll get to know and love America if the come here as students meme, so there is no other rational for the student visas beyond (a) helping the US to compete (b) enriching universities with high tuition at the expense of US safety. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz (no T!) 2005-11-08 11:16 |
| #7 Bill, you are a fucking idiot. Go back to fondeling interns. We get a whole bunch of brains fleeing the EU and other parts of the world on a daily basis. So much so, the EU is starting to pass laws to keep their brains from running away. Sit down and STFU, you are an stain on the dress of our country. |
| Posted by: mmurray821 2005-11-08 11:16 |
| #6 He said the U.S. needed foreign students because "we are nowhere near graduating enough scientists and engineers to maintain, given the size of our economy, a leadership role in the global economy." Maybe if careers in science and engineering were valued in this country instead of being a lawyer we might not need to bring in foreign grad students. |
| Posted by: Cheaderhead 2005-11-08 10:52 |
| #5 We aren't the only big dog anymore because of America's past actions. Right, that homo sold rocketry secrets to the Chicoms for lunch money. Now, those arrogant twits are selling lots on the moon. Pie in the sky comes to mind. They need to test run the new MRI lie detector on him. Bill, is there anything you would die for ? (needle at zero) "Sure, (needle in red total lie zone) my family, (needle pegged) my God, (needle bending) and my country." (gauge explodes) |
| Posted by: wxjames 2005-11-08 10:45 |
| #4 More on the University of MN speach. MINNEAPOLIS Former President Bill Clinton says America's future safety and security hinges on its current behavior as the only global superpower. Clinton told an audience at the University of Minnesota Saturday night that it's time to build the kind of world we want when, in his words, "we're not the only big dog on the block." He says recent actions by the United States have undermined that goal. He cites a unilateral foreign policy that alienates allies and large tax cuts that create an economic mess. The former president believes it was a mistake by the Bush administration to withdraw from numerous global treaties and pursue unilateral military action around the world. In Clinton's view, that fosters resentment in countries that threaten to be future breeding grounds for terrorism. Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Tell me again what the Slickter knows about "behavior, alination, resentment, and undermining US goals?" Absolutely unbelievable. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-08 10:23 |
| #3 sounds like you got to the meat of the argument, BrerRabbit. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-11-08 10:18 |
| #2 "When we got real tough on visas - because one out of a zillion of them might have a bomb - we lost a lot of brains. We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains." Just want to get this straight, a couple smart foreigners are better then a undetermined number of dead Americans. Did I miss anything? |
| Posted by: BrerRabbit 2005-11-08 10:05 |
| #1 "I did see one episode of 'Commander in Chief'," Clinton told the crowd. "Geena Davis is good for..... Go ahead Slick, tell us what you're really thinking. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-08 10:00 |