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| Aksa Brigades endorse Iran's call to eliminate Israel |
| 2005-11-06 |
| The armed wing of the ruling Fatah party, Aksa Martyrs Brigades, on Sunday became the first Palestinian group to publicly endorse Iran's call to eliminate Israel. In a leaflet distributed in the Gaza Strip, the group voiced full support for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statements in which he said that Israel "must be wiped off the map." Ahmadinejad also warned Arab countries against developing economic ties with Israel in response to its withdrawal form the Gaza Strip, which he dubbed as a "trick." "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," he was quoted as saying. "Any [Islamic leader] who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world." The leaflet by the Fatah group is the first of its kind since the Iranian president's speech. Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad, which are believed to be receiving financial aid from Iran, have refrained from reacting to the call to wipe Israel off the map. "We affirm our support and backing for the positions of the Iranian president toward the Zionist state which, by God's will, will cease to exist," said the leaflet. "Recognizing Israel's right to exist means underestimating the Palestinian people, who are making daily sacrifices to liberate Palestine and Jerusalem." The Fatah group also hailed Ahamdinejad's appeal to the Palestinians to unite their ranks so they would be able to destroy Israel. Palestinian Authority officials in Ramallah told the Jerusalem Post that the leaflet does not reflect the stance of the PA or its chairman, Mahmoud Abbas. "We strongly condemn the leaflet," said one official. "We believe it does not even reflect the position of the Aksa Martyrs Brigades." The PA is now in the process of incorporating hundreds of gunmen from the Aksa Martyrs Brigades into the PA security forces. Last month the PA cabinet decided to set up five training camps in the West Bank to prepare the gunmen for their new missions. The PA's plan is supported by both the US and Israel. In a related development, Professor Abdel Sattar Kassem of An-Najah Univeristy in Nablus lashed out at the US, Britain, France and Israel for expressing their revulsion at the Iranian leader's remarks. "These aggressive countries, which specialize in political fraud and the exploitation of other people, did not express reservations when Palestine was wiped off the map in 1948," he said. "Millions of Palestinian refugees have been living for the past 60 years under harsh conditions so that Israel could continue to exist. And these countries, which have been emphasizing their keenness about human rights, insist on preventing these refugees from returning to their homes and property. Israel remains an alien organ in the Arab and Muslim region." In another development, a Palestinian preacher on Friday delivered a sermon in the southern Gaza Strip in which he saluted Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. According to a report by the Palestine News Network, the sermon was delivered by Dr. Jamil Mutawi, a senior representative of Hamas. "May God bless Sheikh Osama bin Laden and Sheikh Abu Musab al Zarqawi, who are both leading the jihad against the Zionist entity and against American domination of the world," he reportedly told worshippers on the second day of the Muslim feast of Eid al-Fitr. rtwt |
| Posted by:too true |
| #35 Kill em (islamonutzoids). Kill em all before they do the same unto the innocents anywhere in the world. France is enabling the islamonuts due to their self destructive culture of dialog (due to the coward gene). The killing will happen. Will it be the West doing it in self defense or the Islamonuts doing it to please their god? All one has to do is imagine the nutzoids of Islam had the capability of wiping Isreal off the map instead of the other way around. Can any clear thinking person not come to the conclusion that the nutzoids would pull the trigger? We are just mentally masturbating if we think we can reason with this evil. |
| Posted by: Constitutional Individualist 2005-11-06 22:02 |
| #34 Never made it to Kivalina Paul. Made it to King Salmon, Kotzibu (sp), Galena, a few others. Ate some moose and bear meat, pretty good stuff. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 21:57 |
| #33 I am the Walrus.... coo coo ca choo! I ate walrus meat for lunch in Kivalina years ago. It was marbled in so much fat that marbled feedlot beef looks lean. You do not want to go there..... |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-11-06 21:53 |
| #32 Ex-lib: Yes, curious how you never hear much about thier culture of buggering children in the media. Good observation. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 21:39 |
| #31 " . . . against American domination of the world" This political schema is mportant--when the Arabs sense "domination" they will fight against it, as it connects, at a very base level, to their more than 60% sexual abuse of children rate. Children grow up. An abstract "enemy" (i.e. assailant) is easier to confront than the mullah next door. By making their retaliation "politcal" they will have fuel for the fire that is pretty much inexhaustible. (Just some FYI.) |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2005-11-06 21:33 |
| #30 Me? I'm just a simple little civilian housewife, who in her long ago innocent and sheltered youth married an engineer who commenced travelling around the world for a large civilian corporation, so finally I and our (eventually) two daughters followed him over to Europe for half a decade. Oh, and Daddy was involved in the establishment of Israel (his mother and Golda Meir used to kaffeeklatch together) and Mama spent the War in hiding in Holland, when she wasn't running errands for the Dutch Underground. Naturally enough, that makes me a first generation American, literate enough to get by, and darned good at pouring tea while listening appreciatively to everyone else's adventures. Much of what I know about the world I learned from those tales, and from those who post at Rantburg. I hope that helps. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-11-06 21:32 |
| #29 Not the Dutch TSA I was referring to, but our own. Is it the right place? Must not be. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 20:47 |
| #28 Is this the right place to bitch about your tax money supporting the Dutch TSA? I say it's a gouda thing to read all articles. |
| Posted by: Kojo 2005-11-06 20:39 |
| #27 Lol, 3dc! |
| Posted by: Regnad Kcin 2005-11-06 19:59 |
| #26 I'm sorry I just can't resist this response... I am the Walrus.... coo coo ca choo! Oh and played backwards... Paul is Alaska. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2005-11-06 19:48 |
| #25 TW: Besoeker is a simple burger, I know very little other than wat I sees on TV and reads in the news papers. I don't know wat you know or who you know, that knows it. In fact, I don't know what I don't know. So, nou you know. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 19:16 |
| #24 Besoeker, you have come to RB recently and are commenting a lot. That's fine - welcome. But you've also been dissing - openly or through condescension - some longtime people here who have realworld experience behind their comments. People who have led troops, worked in the intel community, lived in the middle east, know the Saudis / Israelis / French / whatever first hand. So yeah, there is respect given to the opinions of those whose experience warrants it - whether or not any one of us automatically agrees with any particular opinion held by those who have earned that seniority. You find that amusing??? Hot air's cheap. |
| Posted by: lotp 2005-11-06 19:10 |
| #23 No disrespect thought of, Besoeker, truly! For all I know, you know waaaay more than anyone here except Master Fred, himself. It's just that I know EoZ is reporting from Israel as an Israeli, and all I can tell about you so far is that you seem to have been everywhere I know anything about. For that matter, you don't know terribly much about me either, yet, which makes it a little hard for you to judge how much I might know. That's why newcomers are challenged more -- those whose whiskers trail past their knees have learned the value of one another's comments already (my whiskers are only semi-luxuriant in this group; you should see the gorgeous set of beard and braided moustaches Frank G. has cultivated! As for .com, he joined the group with his already grown, to freak out the natives when he worked in Saudi Arabia. .com has a bit of a mischievious streak, I'm afraid). |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-11-06 19:09 |
| #22 Exackery correct Blackbird, it's all about class envy and hatred, fully supported by a death-based faith. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 19:05 |
| #21 Frank G - I agree, but it needs to happen now, not just be talked about. The longer that the West, and the even the more clear-eyed people here at Rantberg refuse to recognize the issue, and deal with it aggressively, the more likely that the destruction of the innocent, ours and theirs, becomes. Regardless of whether the Mullahs understand the West, they envy and hate it. THEY know that they are in a death-match with it. I also care about the innocent, but I care about ours more. |
| Posted by: SR-71 2005-11-06 18:58 |
| #20 TW: No disrepect intended, You may all be PhD's in international relations for all I know. All I know is wat I read in the little yellow boxes, so I extend my opinion accordingly. There appears to be some "seniority of comment" aire, sensitivity or no/whiskers - no knowledge attitude which I find somewhat amusing. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 18:27 |
| #19 good note TW - the Mullahs are not educated in our world, and the stupid f*cking look on their faces when they provoke and receive their armaggeddon, while entertaining, doesn't justify the loss in innocnt life. I vote for intense wework and asset deprivation. These f&cks have raped the ecomonics of their people, and when leveleled to the canaille...shoud be fun, with less destruction to innocents |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-11-06 18:15 |
| #18 I hope you are right, Besoeker, but God never promised that the Land of Israel would survive, only the People (who've been scattered to the four corners of the earth since Babylon conquered the half-kingdom of Israel in 486 B.C., and took away those who became the Ten Lost Tribes; never since have the entire People lived in the Land). And I've seen no evidence that contradicts what EoZ says, when he writes from that part of the world. I know you only recently discovered the 'Burg, so you don't know everybody yet, and thus you haven't been able to take your own measure of their knowledgeability. Search Elder of Zion to find his posts, then make your own call, 'k? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-11-06 18:07 |
| #17 IS will survive any nuclear first strike TW. They will launch retaliatory strikes that will blow the holy kaabeh and most of the arab world into outer space, count on it. Thats one of the reasons the US has tried to keep the lid on the situation over there. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 17:29 |
| #16 I think the Mullahs think the same way Osama bin Laden thought: make the irreversible gesture to drag Allah into the fight... at which point Allah naturally destroys His enemies while holding His Faithful Followers in the safety of the hollow of His hand. Unfortunately for wannabe Caliph Osama the First, Allah did not deem his effort worthy. But the Mullahs, being the True Believers, harbour no worries on that score. All their classic bazaar maneuvering and tribal connections make these people seem familiar, if different from us. It's important to remember that at base they are not; the Mullahs, as with the Al Qaeda inner core, really believe that their god can and will -- nay must -- take a personal hand in this Final Battle for the soul of Mankind. So they are free to fling around nuclear holocausts and worldwide plagues, because Allah will make sure there isn't any consequence for them for such actions. Let's not forget also, as Elder of Zion pointed out recently, Israel is so small that the first nuke will destroy her. While she may launch her own in a pre-detonation response, there will be very few Israelis left in the land to take satisfaction in the resulting destruction of her enemies. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-11-06 17:07 |
| #15 Islam has always been about conquest, rape, and plunder - nothing else You forgot Pedophilia, Slavery, Murder... The Profit Mohammed did all of these things. Personally I think the MM has been believing their own propaganda. Think about it - they are 'Big fish' in their own little ponds - catered to and feared by all that they survey (at home). Saddam was this was with his 'mother of all battles'. Kimmie-boy-the-brave-baby-killer is the high priest (and 1st follower) of his own personality cult. Even John F'kin Kerry had it when he and TeRAYsa had a 'chili-dog' with the 'common people'.... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-11-06 16:55 |
| #14 So all these Islamic death cult outfits are getting frisky. They think that they are on a roll. I think that the real war is starting, but after that I don't know what the leaders really think. 1. Do the MMs and leaders think that they can use up their fodder and be safe. You know, like sending out glorious suicide martyrs™ and stay home in the safety of their homes and mosques and spew out the same hate. 2. Do the MMs and other higher ups believe their own sh*t and are willing to go down in one big fireworks show? Understanding how they think (oxymoron alert!) will tailor our response. But bottom line, both point to decapitation strikes, sooner or later. I wonder what the schedule is. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-11-06 15:55 |
| #13 Frank G - I have a real problem with your method. IT TAKES TOO LONG and the COURTS LET TOO MANY OFF THE HOOK! Copy the Hackers - PUT THEIR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS, CREDIT CARDS and such in L0PHT type places.. maybe start with USENET's alt.revenge alt.*hack* *money* .... oh and spin it into the reverse Nigerian letter: Hi I finance terror from my safe palace in Saudi. The CIA has discovered my Secret Swiss Bank Account Number xx.xxx.xx.xx.xx and password asfdaty Please! I can't let the monies fall into their Infidel hands and I can't get near a computer. Take the money now so the CIA can't get it! Thanks Abu Dumbshit. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2005-11-06 15:30 |
| #12 I'm not convinced the Mullahs think they'll be hurt in a military exchange. They expect an Iran-Iraq fight where the fodder die and the MM's continue to enrich themselves. I'd hope we could attack their bank accounts, identify and destroy their assets, possessions, homes, extended families and take the war to the MM's directly |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-11-06 15:13 |
| #11 Z - Yes, it sounds like Iran'--s approach. And your point is? Just trying to make sure you're not waving that indiscriminate banner under American colors. Let the Arabs wallow in their death cult. We've no need of it. They seem to be rather accomplished at self-defeat as it stands. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-11-06 15:08 |
| #10 Z - Yes, it sounds like Iran'--s approach. And your point is? I believe that this is what the West is facing if it intends to survive. Islam is the Scientology of the 7th century, codified in the 9-10th centuries to act as glue for the Arab conquest. Islam has always been about conquest, rape, and plunder - nothing else. If the movement in question is motivated by Islam, it must be destroyed. |
| Posted by: SR-71 2005-11-06 14:57 |
| #9 Kill them all, let God sort them out. That sounds a little too much like Iran's approach, SR-71. twobyfour, please try and remember that we're dealing with those who glorify, nay, even revere violent death. Iran's Ahmadinejad cares not that his entire country might be immolated so long as hated Israel meets its end. Palestinians, with their penultimate culture of death, cannot be far behind Iran's mullahs in their willingness to be incinerated for the cause of Israel's destruction. It is time for Israel to make the Palestinians' wish come true. Who can blame the IDF if all the ensuing destruction happens to be rather lopsided? With Israel's possession of atomic weapons now a given, it may well be in their best interest to let all Middle East nations know that a single nuclear explosion upon Israeli soil will result in a swath of destruction from Pakistan to Northern Africa. With so many of the Muslims' eggs suddenly thrust into a single rather fragile basket, the wisdom of tacitly sanctioning Iran's suicidal obsession with Israel's destruction might be called into more vocal question. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-11-06 14:49 |
| #8 SR-71, well, yea, that's what Ahmadinejad indirectly says. |
| Posted by: Sobiesky 2005-11-06 14:39 |
| #7 Kill them all, let God sort them out. |
| Posted by: SR-71 2005-11-06 14:33 |
| #6 What is puzzling is that these dodos don't comprehend that if an Iranian nuke was to land in Israel, it wouldn't follow the sliver like pattern of the Eretz Israel, but project outward radially. |
| Posted by: twobyfour 2005-11-06 14:25 |
| #5 Perhaps because of this? (I keep getting roadsideamerica.com everytime I try and link an image using the IMG tag. It's a picture of the Mufti and Adolf... Mufti and Adolf |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2005-11-06 13:43 |
| #4 Come to think of it, can't remember the last time I saw a muzzi at the Holocaust Memorial Museum? If you had been following the news the last few years, you'd know that they have, in fact visited Holocaust Museums. Some of them have even left snarky messages in the visitor logs, things like, "Hitler didn't do enough". |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-11-06 13:40 |
| #3 Come to think of it, can't remember the last time I saw a muzzi at the Holocaust Memorial Museum? Not to worry, at the rate things are going, soon enough they're going to have one of their very own. The only difference is that people will come to have celebratory picnics on its lawn. Here's my vote for locating the restrooms directly over the mass grave. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2005-11-06 13:37 |
| #2 Excellent point Imo. Come to think of it, can't remember the last time I saw a muzzi at the Holocaust Memorial Museum? Maybe NEVER? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 13:29 |
| #1 In the Second World War, thousands of "Palestinian" Arabs recruited by the Mufti of Jerusalem (Qadi of the Al Aqsa Mosque) fought for Hitler in units like Sonderverbands 286 and 287, and the German Arab Legion from North Africa to Southern Russia. A pity "Palestine" wasn't treated like Prussia after World War II. It would have saved a lot of trouble all around. |
| Posted by: imoyaro 2005-11-06 13:21 |
