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| Weird stuff on french teevee : what the...? |
| 2005-11-06 |
| Honestly, I missed it (I do not watch much tv news anymore, especially public channels), but this has surprized many people; the article linked and its downloadable vids are in french, but there is an auto-translation button (expect not-so-good results). Meat of the article is that the french teevees interviewed the daughters of the disabled 56 years old woman who was set on fire in an attacked bus (and who wasn't muslim despite what has been said, her name is Joëlle Mallard), and offered two diverging versions about the religion of the victim. The France 3 channel first interviewed two girls with judeo-christian firstnames, Yaël (which incidentally is a jewish version of Joëlle) and Anastasia, who appear moved and disturbed during the interview. Theses two girls were also interviewed in newspaper, so there is no doubt they exist and are her daughters. However, 30 minutes later, the TF1 and France 2 channels only talked about one daughter, and aired an interview with a girl named Fadella, who not only has a muslim first name, but also wears typically north african clothes (and is more casual in her interview, to the point some oversuspicious viewers thought she was an actress). No mention is made of Yaël and Anastasia. Now, Ms. Mallard can certainly have three daughters, and one of her can certainly be born of a muslim man or a convert, so this is not troubling in itself. I have no real doubt Fadella is her daughter too. What's disturbing is the idea of a possible manipulation. Did the two channels which only mentioned her muslim daughter intend to lessen the racist and "anti french" aspect of that attack, by "islamizing" the victim through her family? Usually, France 2 and France 3 share the same footages, filmed by France 3 regional crews, and have the same redaction and thus the same editorial line. Why did they not show the same vids, as they usually do? I'm not saying there was a manipulation, it just it is curious. Btw, french tv is not above manipulation... in fact, France 2 is at the heart of a huge scandal, the Al dura death (the Netzarim crossroad shooting), in which the public channel has been at leat passively complicit with the most important paleostinian "blood libel" of the second intifada war. (for a reminder of that case, see http://www.truthnow.org/) Am I paranoid or bigoted, or what? |
| Posted by:anonymous5089 |
| #9 Dixonh...ques mate. Are you from Dixon by chance? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 22:34 |
| #8 JFM Commented "...There was more honesty in the Pravda of yore than in today's French media." The way I understand the situation, all French newspapers are printed by the same printers labor union. If you start venturing opinions which fall outside of the labor unions political philosophy ( socialist-communist and intensely anti-US) you risk a national printing shutdown. It's happened before and editors are loath to publish articles with any line that will tick off the printers unions. |
| Posted by: Dixonh2 2005-11-06 22:28 |
| #7 Hmm... the gulliable in France would certainly fall for it... and a few others like Raptor would buy off on it as truthful media reporting. |
| Posted by: Uawl Snyvluers 2005-11-06 16:23 |
| #6 A5089: I'd like to point out to you that the woman _and_ all of her three kids might have been Moslem, and it still would have been a grave injustice. Street gang insurgencies have as one of their primary objectives keeping _their own_ populations (or what they claim as their own populations/jurisdictions) in line and following _their_ party line. The Intifada, over the years, killed a lot of Palestinians for being "collaborators" and "informants." This could be more of the same. AFAIK the vast majority of the people oppressed by the Taliban in Afghanistan were moslem. |
| Posted by: Phil 2005-11-06 13:46 |
| #5 Imo: These people are stuck-on-stupid living a tribalistic, death based faith. Everyone laughed and made jokes about koolaid, Jonestown, and the "Peoples Temple" in the late 70's. These buggers are just as looney, but in far far greater numbers. If the lie is big enough, it will eventually be believed. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-06 13:40 |
| #4 You know, somebody ought to tell them that Trotsky is passe, like using an ice pick on block of ice. Perhaps they are trying to emulate Andre Breton and the Surrealists because they think it's "cool?" |
| Posted by: imoyaro 2005-11-06 13:33 |
| #3 The real pearl was yesterday: in the FR3 TV there was a broadcast about "the inflitration of American society by evangelists". The problem of the day was not "the gauntlet thrown by the gangs and the islamits to French society" or "the infiltration of the French media by trotskits ie proponents of an undemocratic, fascist-like ideology" (before last presidential elections in a blank, secret vote at "Le Monde", ie the paper who molds the thinking in French society, there were fifty percent votes for the trotskists candidate") or "the shameless brainwashing of kids by leftist teachers and caretakers" (1). Nooooo, the problem of the day was not muslims but evangelists, not France but America. There was more honesty in the Pravda of yore than in today's French media. (1) One day when collecting my then 3 years old daughter at the daycare center I found the caretaker was singing her an anti-american song. Apparently there is no problem in abusing a there years old mind (not to mention that this was done on taxpayer's money) |
| Posted by: JFM 2005-11-06 13:19 |
| #2 The question Anon5089, is are you paranoid enough? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-11-06 11:01 |
| #1 a5089, just remember that just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are NOT out to get you! 8^( Are birth certificates public records in France? If so, it should certainly be easy to get the answer. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2005-11-06 09:56 |