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| Australian Muslims call to arms |
| 2005-11-05 |
| AN inflammatory pamphlet urging Muslims to oppose Western governments was handed out at a major Islamic festival in Melbourne yesterday. The flyer, distributed at a family carnival to mark the end of the holy month of Ramadan in Preston, bore the name of the fundamentalist group Hizb ut-Tahrir - which is banned in Britain and Germany. It claimed new terror laws were part of a conspiracy to eradicate Islam in Western countries. And it said Muslims had "enormously rejected their evil and corrupt rulers that the West have appointed over them, and they are looking forward to consigning them to the dustbins of history". The pamphlet said Muslims overseas had "heroically resisted" invasion and "inflicted the most humiliating lesson on supposed superpowers". It claimed Prime Minister John Howard's recent summit with Muslim leaders was a "smokescreen designed to rubber stamp the Government's proposals". In August Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said he had no evidence that Hizb Ut-Tahir had breached current laws, but he was already reviewing the rules for declaring a terrorist organisation after elements of the group called for attacks on coalition forces in Afghanistan, Iran, the US and Israeli interests. In Sydney the group has drawn gatherings of up to 200 calling for the creation of an Islamic super-state. "Ally yourselves with those who work day and night to confront this war against Islam," the pamphlet says in what was virtually a call to arms. Melbourne's most senior Muslim cleric, Sheik Fehmi, urged Muslims at the celebration - expected to attract up to 10,000 visitors over the weekend - to ignore the pamphlet. He said Ramadan was the time for spiritual purification and reflection for Muslims. "We're not terrorists and we're not thinking of terrorist acts, we're not going to do anything in the future - God willing." |
| Posted by:God Save The World AKA Oztralian |
| #12 Hmmmm...seems to me that when a Government cannot trust its own law-abiding citizens to own and responsibly use firearms to protect themselves and their families from the human "crocodiles," then it follows that what you have is a POLICE STATE where rights are doled out by the Government, rather than the powers of government being severely limited and granted ONLY by the consent of the governed. And, ladies and Gentlemen, we are just beginning to see the tip of this radical Islamofacist iceberg coming south from Indonesia and points west. D'ya really think that these people will be encumbered by decency and restraint? Their incitement and open organizing for violent action is reason enough to DEMAND that your citizens have the absolute right to be armed as appropriate. |
| Posted by: OldMarine 2005-11-05 21:57 |
| #11 If anyone is interested, this is the kind of shit you have to go through to get a licence in Oz. It's one reason why a lot of cockies can't be bothered getting a licence and the ferals are over running the bush |
| Posted by: tipper 2005-11-05 20:33 |
| #10 Australia abounds with problem feral animals and some tasty native ones. Didn't think Australia had that much in common with France, Belgium, and Holland. Oh well, learn something every day. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2005-11-05 18:50 |
| #9 Well.....for some reason I was thinking other wise. My friend in Switzerland is Aussi and we would go to a Swiss indoor range and blast away. I remember him saying that the Aussies were well armed. But that was...almost 4 years now. My bad, I will hang up on myself now.... |
| Posted by: Long Hair Republican 2005-11-05 16:49 |
| #8 The Australian gun owning culture is different to the US, and not really comparable. Major difference is very low handgun ownership levels. Much less use of guns for self defence. Though handgun use is rising, mostly by criminal elements. Long guns are a different story. Rifles and shotguns are ubiquitous in the bush, much less so in cities, unless by city based hunters or target shooters.Every farmer would have a few rifles for kangaroos, pigs etc in the crops. Australia abounds with problem feral animals and some tasty native ones. Speaking personally, I have hunted rabbits, hares, foxes, cats, dogs, dingoes, donkeys, goats, ducks and the odd kangaroo. Fairly typical for an Australian country boy, I would say. Licences to own firearms are required and widely ignored. Police do not bother responsible firearm users. Firearm ownership is pragmatic. If you need a rifle or shotgun, you get one. Very few law abiding Australians would consider owning a handgun, unless they were in crocodile country. |
| Posted by: Grunter 2005-11-05 16:40 |
| #7 Not without spitting, I can't. |
| Posted by: NRA member 2005-11-05 15:22 |
| #6 Oz rounded up all the guns and turned them into scrap. Very few persons in Oz have firearms. This just happened just a few years ago. Same thing that happened in the UK but on a bigger scale. Turn them in or go to jail. Gun registration is not a good thing it leads to confiscation. Can you say Hilary Clinton? I knew you could. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-11-05 15:20 |
| #5 Actually, LHR, I'm pretty sure the Australians sold their arms for false security. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-11-05 14:10 |
| #4 I do believe Australian's are well armed citizens. Those lucky bastards!! |
| Posted by: Long Hair Republican 2005-11-05 13:08 |
| #3 "We're not terrorists and we're not thinking of terrorist acts, we're not going to do anything in the future - God willing." And yet... It claimed new terror laws were part of a conspiracy to eradicate Islam in Western countries. So lemme get this straight. The Muslims had allowed the distribution of a pamphlet equating anti-terrorism with anti-Islam. Then their spokesman says "God willing, we're not going to commit any acts of violence". Well, pardon me, but that sounds like at some point this fellow might say, "Well, God just willed us to kill some kaffir" and start setting off boomers. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-11-05 11:17 |
| #2 I want you to ignore the pamphlet that says, "Ally yourselves with those who work day and night to confront this war against Islam" And I want you to ignore the pamplet that says, "Muslims overseas had "heroically resisted" invasion and "inflicted the most humiliating lesson on supposed superpowers". Yes my followers, ignore the pamphlet our elders are passing around and let me again point out to you all of the things I want you to ignore. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-11-05 10:33 |
| #1 Sounds like its time for some immediate incarcerations followed by permanent deportations back to country of origin. If you can't play nice in the West, then you can go back to the hellhole you came from. Nobody's going to cry any tears because some scumbag Muzzy has been booted. |
| Posted by: mac 2005-11-05 10:30 |