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Afghanistan-Pak-India
Islamists Dismiss Reports of Bin Laden's Death
2005-10-27
Islamists dismissed recent reports on the death of Osama bin Laden “around four months ago”, with the Pakistani newspaper “Awsaf” reporting al Qaeda’s leader had died outside Qandahar in June 2005. Quoting “informed” sources, the article alleged that bin Laden was hiding with a number of his followers in Bamiyan province when his health deteriorated and he was moved to Qandahar where he died and was buried in the “al Shahadah” tomb outside the city.

Repeated appearance by al Qaeda’s second in command Ayman al Zawahiri, on his own, in the last few months, added weight to the rumors, especially as bin Laden has not appeared in any video for over a year.

Muntasser al Zayat, a lawyer defending Islamist extremists in Egypt, told Asharq al Awsat, in a telephone conversation, that security precautions precluded bin Laden from communicating with the media, as al Zawahiri has in the past, adding that “security concerns require the men not to be in the same location”. Less stringent security measures meant al Zawahiri was able to record and smuggle videotaped messages while fears for his life precluded bin Laden from appearing in public, especially as he might have had to change his physical appearance to avoid capture, al Zayat indicated. ‘No one can predict where bin Laden and al Zawahiri are currently living. I believe they are in the least expected place”, he said.

For his part, Hani al Sibai, head of al Maqrizi Center in London, indicated that, in case bin Laden dies, al Qaeda would announce a new leadership was in place and publicly back his successor as it had done when “the leaders of Afghan Arab fighters in the Caucus” Mohammad Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, died in Qandahar in 2001. Al Sibai indicated that al Zawahiri acknowledged the arrests of Abu Faraj al Libbi and Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi bin al Shibah so that, “if the reports on the death of bin Laden were true, al Qaeda would publicly announce his death.”

‘In my opinion, the disappearance of bin Laden after his last videotaped message in December 2004 is aimed at encouraging the US military to stop pursuing him”, he added.
Posted by:Fred

#22  Ben Laden is dead. He is dead in a cave someplace. They will have to prove otherwise.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom   2005-10-27 15:29  

#21  â€˜No one can predict where bin Laden and al Zawahiri are currently living. I believe they are in the least expected place”, he said.

It's a clue! We must search all the yeshivas in Brooklyn immediately! If he's not there, then he's definitely in a Catholic girls' school. After that, if we still havent got him, we have to turn the Castro district upside down. We are this close!
Posted by: Baba Tutu   2005-10-27 15:11  

#20  Like 72 virgins
Touched for the very first time!
Posted by: The other Osama bin Madonna   2005-10-27 14:50  

#19  Thorazine, what is this Thorazine?

Thats a nurse? I thought it was Marshall Davout.
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte   2005-10-27 14:49  

#18  Maybe Ted Kennedy knows something we don't know about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, calling him "Osama bin … Osama … Obama."
Posted by: Bardo   2005-10-27 14:34  

#17  BTW, it was Iran who gave Zarqawi passage when Afghanistan was overrun by the US and Northern Alliance. It was Iran who in 2003 gave Zarqawi sanctuary and rearmed him and his followers after their enclave in Kurdistan was overrun by US and Kurdish forces. There is huge debt of vengeance owed to Iran.
Posted by: ed   2005-10-27 14:20  

#16  Several of his sons, a wife or two, the #3 (military head), and most of the top leadership are in Iran and plotting with the help and encouragement of the Iranians. I would give odds that bin Laden and/or Zawahiri are also in Iran, but unlike the others, hidden by the IRG.
Posted by: ed   2005-10-27 14:15  

#15  Osama....come home!
Posted by: B. Laden   2005-10-27 14:00  

#14  If I recall correctly, Osama bin Laden's favourite son is wandering "freely" in Iran with the rest of that portion of the Al Qaeda leadership that Iran is hiding.

Posted by: trailing wife   2005-10-27 14:00  

#13  I must say that the roumors about my recent death are highly exaggerated.

[O].B.Shaw
Posted by: {Osama }B(in) Shaw   2005-10-27 13:29  

#12  Even if Osama is dead, God admonishes "kill his sons, as they must not rise to inherit the earth". Jeremiah 50 and 51 further urges us to not "spare any arrows" but to completely destroy them. God has not forsaken his people.
Posted by: Danielle   2005-10-27 12:06  

#11  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets wasn't afraid to travel

Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith
And I was ’round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around st. petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a general’s rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made..

Posted by: Osama bin Madonna   2005-10-27 11:09  

#10  For what it is worth, my understanding of certain biblical prophecies puts some really bad dudes in (As)Syria, Iran (King of the North), Saudi Arabia(King of the South), the West Bank (Megiddo), high in the cliffs of Moab and Edom, which would be mountainous regions of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the Sinai, and the least expected of all, sailing on the high seas in a luxury vessel. Ezekiel 27 has a long list of accomplices and locales such as Tyre and Sidon, and others including Bosnia and Chechnya, as well as Rome and Spain, plus most of the Mediterranean coast. Pretty much all the current hot spots.
Posted by: Danielle   2005-10-27 10:33  

#9   The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets

Joe also fought with Sitting Bull against Custer. Don't try to understand, just go with it.
Posted by: Steve   2005-10-27 08:25  

#8  Hey, pressure like this is good to force OBL to issue a statement. If he's alive, he has to risk delivering a video. If he's dead, the pressure will mount for a video, and if none surfaces, we can pretty much assume he's dead. And in the best possible way, too, instead of at the hands of a Special Forces raid. I don't think dying of renal failure qualfies you as a martyr.
Posted by: gromky   2005-10-27 03:26  

#7  I read this article differently.

Islamists dismissed recent reports on the death of Osama bin Laden "around four months ago”, with the Pakistani newspaper “Awsaf” reporting al Qaeda’s leader had died outside Qandahar in June 2005.

In other words, he's dead, Jim. The debate is not if but when. Besides, we already knew that anyway. Not that we care or it matters anymore.
Posted by: 2b   2005-10-27 03:01  

#6  Yawn, Is it time for another Bin Laden is dead repeat already.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-10-27 03:01  

#5  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets

Please explain.
Posted by: 2b   2005-10-27 02:55  

#4  The Osama I fought with...

Wha..???
Posted by: Rafael   2005-10-27 01:28  

#3  Nurse Ratched, another 10cc of Thorazine, please.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-10-27 01:21  

#2  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets wasn't afraid to travel either by himself or in very small groups - in any case, iff he's dead the Sun and Universe hasn't exploded/nova'ed, and Madonna aka Josephine Bonaparte is still married to Scott Ritchie. As for where Osama and Zawey are living, both the Radics and Commies say the WOT and everything and everyone is America's fault no matter what so it doesn't matter where Osama-babe is hiding. Madonna sezzes does Osama really believe Big Daddy doesn't know!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2005-10-27 01:03  

#1  Splendid! Those who should know best remain certain that this mass-murdering psycho cretin is still alive. No sense in calling off the offensive designed to flush this monster-raving-turd out of the woodwork just yet. A whopping big thank you for those enduring believers that continue to inspire our attempts at detaining this two-legged sack-of-sh!t. I cannot thank them enough regarding their determined and resolute invitation for more of our ordnance. Have all you want, boys. Schaweet!
Posted by: Zenster   2005-10-27 00:40  

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