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Terror Networks & Islam
Analysts warn of Doom Gloom effects of Iraq civil war
2005-10-26
Got some professional-grade whingeing, handwringing, and thinly veiled threats in this piece. It's a classic.
Any all-out civil war in Iraq could shake the political foundations of places beyond that stricken land, sending streams of refugees across Iraqi borders, tempting neighbors to intervene, and renewing the half-buried old conflict of Sunni and Shiite in the Muslim world, Middle East analysts say.
Only thing half-buried are the bodies
"If it's a war between Sunni and Shiite, this war might be extended from Lebanon to Afghanistan," says Diaa Rashwan, an Egyptian expert on Islamic militancy.
One of those feature/bug dichotomies, I'd say.
In a series of Associated Press interviews, other regional specialists didn't foresee such falling dominoes — open war between Islam's two branches spreading elsewhere from Iraq. But they believe regional tensions have already sharpened because of the rise of Iraqi Shiites to power under U.S. military occupation. This "really changes the power structure in the Middle East, not only in Iraq, but in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia," said longtime U.S. Mideast scholar William R. Polk, referring to two other Arab lands with fragile religious divides.
*Snicker* The 'scholars' can see the end of their gravy train off in the distance, and they don't like it.
Iraq's new constitution, approved in an Oct. 15 referendum whose results were certified Tuesday, is largely opposed by the Sunni Muslim minority, since it could lead to a virtual breakup of the country into oil-rich Shiite and Kurdish regions in the south and north, and a resource-poor Sunni center. A permanent government will be elected Dec. 15, inevitably controlled by the Shiite majority. Many fear this will lead to clashes between Sunni and Shiite armed groups, transforming the Sunnis' long-running anti-U.S. insurgency into a civil war.
Mainly the folks 'fearing' Sunni/Shia clashes are hoping for them; their whole worldview depends on it.
A key neighbor has voiced urgent concern. "All the dynamics are pulling the country apart," Saudi Arabia's foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, said of Iraq, a faint sheen of sweat glistening on his brow. Speaking with Washington reporters on Sept. 22, the Saudi also warned that Iraq's disintegration would "bring other countries in the region into the conflict."
"Sunni's should be left in charge like Allah intended."
Turkey and Iran top that list. The Turks might be tempted to intervene in Iraq's north to keep its autonomous Kurds from supporting Turkey's own Kurdish separatists. Shiite Iran might act — with arms, intelligence, even "volunteers" — to ensure victory by a friendly Iraqi Shiite leadership in any civil war, analysts say. "The Turks would be the most worried and have the most capacity" — a strong military — "to do something about it," said Polk.
But Turkey wants into the EU, which will almost certainly demand that Turkey turn its military into window dressing with nice uniforms and very little fighting ability.
Persian Iran, sharing a long border and a history of warfare with Arab Iraq, has multiple interests in its neighbor's future, noted W. Andrew Terrill, Mideast specialist at the U.S. Army War College. The Iranians clearly don't want a return to a hostile Sunni-led Iraq like that of ousted President Saddam Hussein. But Terrill said Tehran also must worry about a Shiite-run government that is too reliant on Washington "that is willing to accept permanent U.S. military bases that may be used to threaten and intimidate the Iranian regime." Two mostly Sunni neighbors, Syria and Jordan, are largely unable and unlikely to try to influence a civil war next door, analysts say. But both would bear a heavy burden if Iraqi Sunnis were driven to seek refuge across the border, fleeing Balkan-style "ethnic cleansing" — a prospect haunting regional officials. "What's happening in Iraq is already affecting the region. There are a half-million Iraqis in Jordan, a country of 5 1/2 million people," Hasan Abu Nimah, a former Jordanian U.N. ambassador, told the AP. An even greater influx "would put a strain on services and schools and create difficulties of all kinds."
That's what zakat is for. Go cry to Uncle Abdullah and the Sultan of Brunei. Maybe they'll melt down a couple of their solid gold sinks...
Egyptian analyst Mohamed el-Sayed Said worries about a broader struggle between Islam's two branches — the Sunnis, long dominant in the Arab world, and the schismatic, often oppressed Shiites, historically viewed as "subversives." "Not in recent memory have we had a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites," noted Said, deputy director of Cairo's Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies. "If we have one in Iraq, it would probably inflame divisions in other countries, particularly Lebanon and Saudi Arabia."
Professor Mo has a fairly selective memory, I gather.
In Lebanon, analysts say, the Shiite party Hezbollah may draw on Iraq's Shiite ascendancy for political and material support in its contest for power with Lebanese Christian and Sunni factions. Said doesn't expect a new Lebanese civil war, but sees the "trust and amity" between Lebanese Shiites and Sunnis seriously undermined if their coreligionists fall into full-scale war in Iraq. To Iraq's south, Saudi Arabia's relatively small, downtrodden Shiite minority is unlikely to take up arms against the Sunni fundamentalist monarchy, say Said and others. Instead, they fear that Sunni extremists, returning home to Saudi Arabia from a losing battle in Iraq, will seek revenge through terror attacks on Saudi Shiites. Rashwan, also of the Al-Ahram center, said similar sectarian violence could break out in Bahrain and other Gulf states with significant Shiite populations. Militants wouldn't need to flock to Iraq to wage their version of holy war, Rashwan said. "The Shiite-Sunni divide exists in your own country. You can create your own battlefield."
"That's a nice flowering of democracy you have there. It would be a pity if anything was to happen to it."
Posted by:Steve

#5  The USA should have initiated war from Lebanon to Afghanistan at about the same time the US took the war to Afghanistan alone.

Fighting these Islamofascists here and there but not everywhere is an ongoing horrible mistake.

Posted by: Hupeasing Jatch2629   2005-10-26 14:35  

#4  Are they seriously thinking of invading Iraq when the US Military is there big time?

Did they empty the shit out of their brains and replace it with a vaccum?
Posted by: 3dc   2005-10-26 12:03  

#3  Shiit Iran fought Saddam to a standstill over 8 years.
The US military took Saddam in a couple of weeks and we'd be fighting defensive in this.

Bring it on.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-10-26 11:28  

#2  None of this is going to happen. Thanks for the doom day prophecy associated press.
Posted by: bgrebel9   2005-10-26 11:08  

#1  'Shiite Iran might act — with arms, intelligence, even "volunteers" — to ensure victory by a friendly Iraqi Shiite leadership in any civil war, analysts say.' Come on, be honest -- how many of you secretly wish that Iran would invade a sovereign, democratic country with the most liberal constitution in that part of the world in history?
Posted by: Curt Simon   2005-10-26 10:17  

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