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Incoming FDNY chaplain questions 9/11 story, then quits
2005-09-30
Via DhimmiWatch
An imam slated to be sworn in Friday as the second Muslim chaplain in Fire Department history said he questioned whether 19 hijackers were responsible for the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and suggested a broader conspiracy may have brought down the Twin Towers and killed more than 2,700 people.
Just fire the idiot now and get it over with. Isn't everybody tired of that claptrap by now?
In a telephone interview Thursday, Imam Intikab Habib, 30, a native of Guyana who studied Islam in Saudi Arabia, said he doubted the United States government's official story blaming 19 hijackers associated with al-Quaida and Osama bin Laden. "I as an individual don't know who did the attacks," said Habib, 30, a soft-spoken man who immigrated to New York in July 2000 after spending six years in Saudi Arabia getting a degree in Islamic theology and law. "There are so many conflicting reports about it. I don't believe it was 19 ... hijackers who did those attacks."
Then you shouldn't be affiliated with the FDNY. Period. Go back to Soddy Arabia. Stay there. Don't come back.
Asked to elaborate on his reasons for doubting that story, he talked about video and news reports widely disseminated in the Muslim community. "I've heard professionals say that nowhere ever in history did a steel building come down with fire alone," he said. "It takes two or three weeks to demolish a building like that. But it was pulled down in a couple of hours. Was it 19 hijackers who brought it down, or was it a conspiracy?"
Fire, explosion, and hatred. Now go back to Arabia and don't bother people who aren't nuts.
Questioned about who he believed was responsible for the attacks, Habib said he didn't know. He said, however, that he did not expect to raise his doubts with rank-and-file firefighters -- nor did he share them two weeks ago when he participated in several Sept. 11 memorials on behalf of the Fire Department. "My position as a chaplain is that whoever did it, it's a tragic incident," he said. "I feel sorrow for the families who lost loved ones and for the firefighters who died in it. Whoever did it, it was a very wrong thing. It's always wrong to take an innocent human life."
Very pious of you, bub.
A spokesman for the Fire Department, Frank Gribbon, said that Habib was recommended by the department's Islamic Society and was hired "based on his credentials as a religious person. We don't ask new employees about their political views before we hire them." Stephen Cassidy, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, could not be reached for comment.
What His Holiness is expressing aren't political views, but a denial of the reality that affected FDNY and cost the lives of too many of its people. If he's too goddamned lazy or illiterate to research the evidence in favor of an attack by 19 krazed killers, which was available within 36 hours of the attacks, then he shouldn't be associated with FDNY.
Habib's remarks about the attacks came in response to questions about whether he thought firefighters would accept a chaplain who had been educated in Saudi Arabia. He said he did not expect that to be an issue because "I come from a country where you're accustomed to living with people of different ethnic, religious and racial backgrounds."
What different religious backgrounds? Salafist and non-Salafist?
When pressed further about whether the hijackers' backgrounds -- 15 of whom were Saudi -- might make his training an issue for still-grieving firefighters, he went on to express his own doubts about the hijacker story.
That, to me, indicates a mind that doesn't work right. If the question involved him and his involvement with Satan's Kingdom, and he answered another question about 19 other guys, then he either wasn't paying attention or he didn't want to answer the question about himself. Either way, they don't need him.
Habib was one of several imams recommended for the chaplain's job by the Islamic Society for the Fire Department, as a result of his work teaching junior high students at Al-Ihsan Academy in Ozone Park, a private Islamic school, where he worked for about five years. "He's a good man," said Hakim Braxton, president of the Islamic Society. "Any statements he's made, he's responsible for ... But I would ask that the citizens of this city give him a chance and judge him on his actions."
His job involves words, not actions. That's what he does for a living. Now, when you talk for a living, generally people expect that what you say makes a sort of sense.
Braxton also stressed that neither he nor anyone in the Islamic Society would agree with anyone who tried to justify the terror attack in any way. "I lost friends, family, co-workers," he said. Braxton described Habib as a "humble, grounded and family man, which is a good thing in this job, because he's trying to help everyone and he's representing a very diverse community."
The very diverse community he's representing appears not to believe that Soddy terrorists were responsible for the attack on the WTC. They think it was a conspiracy, maybe by Jews or by the U.S. gummint or by Esquimeaux or Samoans.
Habib himself said he saw his role as ministering to every member of the Fire Department, not just to Muslims. "Being a chaplain in the Fire Department, I serve the whole Fire Department," he said.
"He's quit, Jim Fred"
Imam resigns as incoming FDNY chaplain after report
September 30, 2005, 12:04 PM EDT: An imam slated to be sworn in today as the second Muslim chaplain in Fire Department history, instead resigned after making controversial remarks on the Sept. 11 attacks in an interview with Newsday. "The Fire Department this morning received the resignation of Imam Intikab Habib from his position of FDNY Chaplain," said FDNY Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta. "Based on comments he made to Newsday, Imam Intikab Habib would have been unable to effectively serve in the role he was appointed to." "I did not want to (resign), but it was best for the department," Habib told NY1 today.
Was it something I said? I'd like to think so...
Posted by:ed

#23  Well that was fast. Story comes out in the morning and imam Ostrich is out by noon. Good job NYC. Now deport his ass to Guyana or, preferably, Saudi.
Posted by: ed   2005-09-30 19:49  

#22  I was beginning to think that nothing in the news could surprise me anymore. I was wrong.
Posted by: Darrell   2005-09-30 19:36  

#21  He's the one that holds the axe. They swing so it sticks in his head, and he holds the axe til they need it.

What? I wasn't supposed to tell anyone that? Well dammit, no I didn't get the memo!
Posted by: Silentbrick   2005-09-30 18:17  

#20  And just what role was this islamic idiot appointed to fill?
Posted by: Kelly   2005-09-30 18:04  

#19  Hasn't the FDNY put up with enough Islamoshit without putting up with this nimrod?
Posted by: Captain America   2005-09-30 15:40  

#18  Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta: "Based on comments he made to Newsday, Imam Intikab Habib would have been unable to effectively serve in the role he was appointed to."

Understatement of the year

But what the heck! Let's all hold hands and sing a few choruses of KUMBAY-YA. Get those nasty politically incorect thoughts out of our heads, regarding raising more questions about Islam and this Religion of Peace stuff...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-09-30 15:00  

#17  He should leave the US on his own. Too many widows and orphans from that day know either where he lives, or are going to find out, and want to pay him a visit in order to have a little "talk" with him..
Posted by: BigEd   2005-09-30 14:56  

#16  Resigned like a former FEMA Director. I if it was the higher up's who pushed this or the fact no firehouse in NYC would take this Douchebag in?
Posted by: Charles   2005-09-30 14:20  

#15  Resigned? Why hasn't he been deported?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-30 14:08  

#14  Resigned? Praise Allan!
Posted by: growler   2005-09-30 13:48  

#13  Update: The chaplain has resigned.
Posted by: Pappy   2005-09-30 13:38  

#12  It never fails to amaze me that the Islamic mind can put Bin Laden up as a hero for successfully attacking the great Satan and then in the next breath say that it was all an inside attack.

It really is no wonder they act crazy, because many of them have short-circuited themselves.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-09-30 13:31  

#11  Odd, isn't it, that this fellow was recommended by the Muslims in the FDNY?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-30 13:01  

#10  no towels in the FDNY helmets
Posted by: Frank G   2005-09-30 12:34  

#9  Please go here:

http://nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailfdny.html

Write a letter of complaint to Nicholas Scopetta, fire commissioner. Urge him to fire/dismiss this idiot, whose foul views are an insult to the memory of the firefighters who died trying to save residents of my city.
Posted by: growler   2005-09-30 12:23  

#8  Yo, Intikab, we got a three alarm at Broad and Pearl. Want to come a long and climb the ladder?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-09-30 11:31  

#7  Not agsint this asswipe but aginst the people who recruited him and even agaisnt the people who recruited the recruiter.
Posted by: JFM   2005-09-30 11:06  

#6  This, and many other things from Dhimmi watch, convinces me that the Mythical Moderate Muslim is mostly, well, mythical.

Given the people I've known in my rank and files crappy works, almost all of the muslims I discussed with were muslim and/or algerian, tunisian,... (I'm talking about normal, IE not homeboys nor thugs, born in France from french parents) first, and had a muslim-centered worldview alien to "western one", complete with conspiracy theory ("the israelis bomb themselves to blame islam", said to me by a mild mannered, very nice comorean cook)...

I'm sorry, but I really have to question the allegiance, my personal if bigoted opinion being that if you're a "good" muslim, you're obligatory muslim first (this is often combined with being arab, since arabs are by defintion the islamic Master Race).

Only a "bad" (that is secular) muslim can shift his allegiance to another entity such as the USA, the FDNY,... and if you add the fact that any "bad" muslim can re-islamize himself by going back to the texts (and so to jihad), and that most of the "secular" muslims are in fact attentists and follower, anything more than a small muslim presence in an org or a country is hazardous for its coherence.

For example, there are now 10-20% muslims in new professional french army, with up to 30-40% in combat units such as paratroopers, and this pose many problems... not to mention the fact that a survey found that only 1 in ten muslim young men would fight for France, and that many would certainly not fight against "their" country (Algeria, Morocco,..., even if they are 3rd generation).
And the same goes for the belgian army, which had to re-incorporate (due to political pressure) mulsim soldiers ousted because they precisely said they wouldn't fight for Belgium or against a muslim country.

But perhaps I'm doing generalization?
Posted by: anonymous5089   2005-09-30 11:02  

#5  I'd love to know who he thinks was behind it. Press him on this and you'd get a combination of Bush and Mossad.

"There are many conflicting reports"

er, no, there aren't. binny confessed. any "conflicting reports" are simply products of islamonazis seeking to blame others.

I hope there's a real backlash in the FDNY against this a$$wipe.
Posted by: PlanetDan   2005-09-30 10:24  

#4  So, how many Muslims in FDNY? Six? I'd guess more if it were NYPD, but as I understand it, FDNY is exceedingly white - there's less than 400 blacks on the payroll. [I did the numbers, and I figure that if the department matches the general population, there's about fifteen black Muslims, plus however many white converts and any Asian born-that-ways. Say about 20?]

I'm willing to bet that at least some sort of incident occurs. What a massively boneheaded appointment.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2005-09-30 09:55  

#3  You're fired!
Posted by: Donald Trump   2005-09-30 09:52  

#2  Imam Intikab Habib, 30, a native of Guyana who studied Islam in Saudi Arabia

Well, what a surprise!

So when's Hamas getting a rabbi as a chaplain?
What PC bulllshit! When are the FDNY Druids getting their guy? How about the Wiccans, the Moonies, the Scientologists?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-09-30 09:32  

#1   "I've heard professionals say that nowhere ever in history did a steel building come down with fire alone,"

Bring your own physics and engineering rules! They're not universal, you know! You don't have to understand it, just be pretending to quote an expert who does! Make sure to make the authorities in your argument-by-authority anonymous for extra points....

Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-09-30 09:06  

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