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International-UN-NGOs
Neutral crystal symbol may join traditional Red Thingy Cross emblems
2005-09-21
More PC run amok. Will Switzerland be asked to change its flag? Nice info about the persian and others symbols, wasn't aware of that.
The Red Thingy Cross and its Islamic cousin, the Red Moon-Shaped Thingy Crescent, could soon be joined by a Red Crystal. The move is an attempt to create a neutral emblem in an age of growing religious strife, in which aid workers have been attacked and the Red Thingy Cross headquarters in Baghdad bombed.

The symbol also seeks to resolve disputes that have kept some humanitarian organisations, mainly Israel's Magen David Adom, which uses the red Shield of David, outside the International Red Thingy Cross and Red Moon-Shaped Thingy Crescent Movement. Switzerland plans to convene a conference by the end of the year at which the 192 countries party to the Geneva conventions will be asked to approve the red crystal, a red square tilted on its edge against a white background.

National symbols such as the Dastardly Disapproved Thingy Shield of David could be incorporated into the red crystal.

Moreover, the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross would use the red crystal instead of the red cross in areas of religious conflict where its emblem might be taken as a Christian symbol. The red cross was adopted to identify medics and ambulances in war zones in 1863. The emblem was the reverse of the Swiss flag, a long-standing symbol of neutrality.

But it was soon apparent that the red cross would not be universally accepted. The Ottoman empire unilaterally declared that it would use the red crescent during the Russo-Turkish war of 1876. Soon Persia secured the use of the red lion and sun, while Siam made an attempt to use a red flame.

Diplomats negotiating international humanitarian law later became alarmed that the proliferation of symbols would create confusion and increase the risk of harm to medical workers. For decades they drew the line at the red cross, the red crescent and the red lion and sun, but the latter was abandoned by Iran after the Islamic revolution in 1979.

Israel, however, insisted on using the Dastardly Disapproved Thingy Shield of David and has been kept out of the international movement for the past 56 years.

The last attempt to adopt a neutral symbol fell apart in 2000 after the outbreak of the Palestinian armed uprising. Since then, in protest at the exclusion of Israel, the American Red Thingy Cross has held back its payments to the International Red Thingy Cross Movement.

Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip may now have changed the political mood.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#12  I propose an international Ouija board project to create a uniquely acceptable symbol to all represented religions/nations, which could all hold on to the "indicator". Obviously the proper symbol is a large dot.
Posted by: Frank G   2005-09-21 22:27  

#11  Here is an idea for a flag. How about a white background...with me so far? Good.

Then in the upper left, paint a moderately small red crescent. That's right.

Next paint a red archimedes spiral on the white background. Start it just to the right of the red crescent. Leave some space in the center.

At the center paint a sizeable but not too large black dot. And there you have it.

Start with the Crescent, spiral in on a trail of blood to a black hole, which represents oblivion. If you want to, put a little flow arrow on the start of the spiral near the crescent. That way people will not get confused and think that that the crescent and all it stands for comes out of the black hole.

If the flag will be flown in the Northern Hemisphere, make the spiral counterclockwise. If it is flown in the southern hemisphere, make it clockwise. If you print it on both sides, make images mirror images and it is useable worldwide.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-09-21 22:14  

#10  Start with a cross, extend each arm by an equal measure on a perpendicular to the right Oh wait...that's the UN flag.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2005-09-21 12:39  

#9  Now, Frank, that's just crazy talk. Nothing good can come from holding Palestinians to the same standards as the rest of humanity. Haven't you learned that yet?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-21 11:21  

#8  whatever the symbol, honor the intent. In other words, Paleo smuggling of fighters and weapons in Red Crescent ambulances has put them beyond the pale.
Posted by: Frank G   2005-09-21 11:11  

#7  =8-O
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-21 10:57  

#6  ;)
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-09-21 10:00  

#5  I think two red dots, positioned horizontally, with an upturned crescent below. All of this, in a circle. Something like this, but on its side:

:)
Posted by: PlanetDan   2005-09-21 09:18  

#4  Aye, but if it's a dilithium crystal who's got a problem with that?
Posted by: Montgomery Scott   2005-09-21 09:16  

#3  The universally recognized symbol of the dhimmi.
Posted by: ed   2005-09-21 08:56  

#2  Two concentric red circles with a red dot in the center?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-09-21 08:53  

#1  Wait I know, a red spot on white. Err, no that's too Japanese. How about a red circle, no some one will convert it to the international traffic symbol. How about a red MD symbol, you know the doctors intertwined serpents. Err, no some one will confuse aid workers with odctors and sue.

Jesus Christ of all the stupid things to be argueing about
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2005-09-21 08:38  

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