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Iraq constitution draft ready
2005-08-29

President Jalal Talabani said on Sunday Iraq’s draft constitution is ready to be put to an October 15 referendum despite the objections of Sunni Arabs which were downplayed by US President George W Bush. “The draft constitution is ready and will be presented to the Iraqi people, who are known for their intelligence, to give their verdict on October 15,” Talabani told reporters. “There are objections from our Sunni Arab brothers... but nobody can claim that they represent the whole spectrum of Sunni Arabs. If the nation rejects it, we will write another one.”

Bush hailed the draft constitution, calling it “an inspiration” for supporters of democracy. “Of course there’s disagreement. We’re watching a political process unfold, a process that’s encouraged debate and compromise,” he said from his Texas ranch. “We recognise that there is a split amongst Sunnis,” he said. “Some Sunnis expressed reservations about provisions of the constitution. That’s their right 
 It is important that all Iraqis engage in the constitutional process by debating the merits of this important document and making an informed decision on October 15.”

US ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad called the charter “the most progressive document of the Muslim world”. Negotiators agreed to 11th-hour changes in the text in a bid to win endorsement from Sunni Arabs, but the changes failed to bring the Sunnis on board. Shia negotiator Khudair al-Khozai acknowledged that just three of the 15 Sunni Arab members had turned up for the final meeting of the drafting committee. He said the late concessions made to the Sunnis had been “minor and do not affect the core” of the text. The principal stumbling block had been Shia demands for an autonomous region in Shia-majority areas of the centre and south like that of the Kurds in the north. Sunnis opposed the demand, fearing they would lose out in the distribution of oil revenues, given that the reserves lie almost entirely in the north or south.
Posted by:Fred

#16  Of course, liberalhawk. Most non-Jewish Iraqis probably won't go beack either. That's what happens in diasporas. But then why did the Iraqis feel the need to refute right of return in the draft of their Constitution only to the Jews?
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-08-29 19:40  

#15  And here I thought a Boson was a Navy rating...
Posted by: mojo   2005-08-29 17:24  

#14  And here I thought a Boson was a Navy rating...
Posted by: mojo   2005-08-29 17:24  

#13  And we all know the US started the war because Iraq was going to start denominating its Mesons in Euros rather than Dollars.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-08-29 16:54  

#12  ive met Iraqi Jews. A close relation of mine once dated an Iraqi Jew. AFAICT, few to none of the Iraqi Jews living in the US or Israel want to move back to Iraq. So that whole argument was kinda silly.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-08-29 16:43  

#11  Yes, we control the weak force through a series of stepped long term contracts on anti-matter delivery. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHA
Posted by: Quantum Jew   2005-08-29 16:09  

#10  The allanists states need to be warned about the slim (but nonzero) chance of spontaneous Jew appearance.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-08-29 15:59  

#9  Still, at least there's one part of the Constitution they can all agree on: NO JEWS ALLOWED.

Well, no returning Iraqi Jews, anyway. There is still a very small indigenous Jewish population, as I recall.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-08-29 15:24  

#8  Still, at least there's one part of the Constitution they can all agree on: NO JEWS ALLOWED.
Posted by: Unuting Thomong2628   2005-08-29 13:04  

#7  I lifted this off the Right Wing News website and I plan to use it every time some lefty make the Vietnam/Iraq comparison:
"Iraq is just like Vietnam except:
We occupy Hanoi.
We've captured Ho Chi Minh.
The North Vietnamese have just held
a free and democratic election.
The North Vietnamese are working on
a new constitution.
Yes, Iraq is just like Vietnam."

I would add that during this process not a single shot was fired between the three "opposing" factions. By any standard that is what is called Democracy. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-08-29 10:43  

#6  remember, a 2/3 no vote in just 3 provinces, in the referendum, means new elections for a new parliament to draft another constitution.

Either the constitution passes - which means the Sunnis (assuming they vote) are NOT following their "leaders"

OR

the constitution loses, and there are new election, in which SCIRI will probably do less well.

Neither is a disaster, from the US point of view. Lets hope we can have the wisdom to see that, and the resolve to see this through.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-08-29 10:12  

#5  â€œThe draft constitution is ready and will be presented to the Iraqi people, who are known for their intelligence..."

Posted by: gromgoru   2005-08-29 09:49  

#4  The comparison between the Iraqi Sunnis post-Saddam and the white South Africans post-Apartheid is apt. We never would have lifted a finger to help whites in SA if they had refused to participate in the process, imported foreign terrorists and setup an 'insurgency' in hopes of returning to power. Screw them.
Posted by: JAB   2005-08-29 09:42  

#3  I look forward to the run up to Oct 15 where the Baathists say 'vote no' and the islamists say 'if you vote, we'll kill you'.

Good battling slogans.
Posted by: mhw   2005-08-29 09:16  

#2  It is difficult to overestimate the Iraqu Sunni Arabs' inability to comprehend the commonly accepted reality or their willingness to delude themselves. They think themselves in an alternate reality in which they are important and have control of the situation. If they persist in their current attitudes, there will be many fewer of them in the future.
Posted by: RWV   2005-08-29 01:25  

#1  ...the changes failed to bring the Sunnis on board.

Short of putting 'em back in charge, nothing would have.
Posted by: PBMcL   2005-08-29 01:17  

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