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Caribbean-Latin America
Chavez/Castro Offer Cheap Gas, Free Health Care to America's poor
2005-08-24
Posted by:RG

#26  Gasoline is cheaper than mineral water in the US as well.

And that drives the Europeans nuts :) We get no sympathy from them when griping about gas prices. And you know what, they have a point :)
Posted by: Rafael   2005-08-24 16:25  

#25  You guys do know that Evian is "naive" spelled backwards, don'tcha?

If that's not a hint, I dunno what is...
Posted by: mojo   2005-08-24 15:11  

#24  Oil is a global comodity. If Chavez tries to sell it to the US it will just be resold where the price is greatest. When Clinton released heating oil from the reserves it ended up in Europe. That is the way things go.

A Democrat could try to play off that they have the ability to change the laws of supply and demand but only fools would believe them and those fools tend to vote Democrat already.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-08-24 13:26  

#23  The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:

— Forty-six percent of all poor households own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and porch or patio.

— Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

— Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

— The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens and other European cities. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

— Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.

— Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television. Over half own two or more color televisions.

— Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

— Seventy-three percent own a microwave oven, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.

Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family isn't hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is equally far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, activists and politicians.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,132956,00.html
Posted by: Elmemble Ulaitch5567   2005-08-24 13:25  

#22  For those who think PR's theory is crazy, just remember that Chavez is, in no small part, president of Venezuela due to the certification of his election as "free and fair" by the Carter Center. Without their certification, he could well have been considered as untouchable as Kimmie or the Mullahs, but the Carter Center gave him international legitimacy in the eyes of libs (and govs)everywhere.

In effect, our Democratic Party put him in power, in 2008 he will return the favor.
Posted by: mjh   2005-08-24 13:21  

#21  Right now. I only have circumstantial evidence. I know in the past that Clinton sold top secret technology to China, Clinton released oil reserves while he was President, and the Democrats will do exploit anything to get power back.

Even if my theory were to take place, we won't find out until many years afterwards. Remember, the Gorelick wall was just recently made public. I won't have documentation for many, many years.

My theory is based on current and past actions Anti-American Left, my theory, although I do not have docs, is not exaclty pie in the sky. You say that the Dems can't be that stupid. Oh, I think they can because they feel they can get away with it, everytime. The MSM will protect them. Most of the public can care less how the gas prices went low, they just want it low.

If the Democrats can be caught red handed selling missile tech to China, stealing from originals from top secret archives, and could have prevented 9/11 by not putting up a wall and NOT one indictment, then my theory is really not all that off base.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2005-08-24 12:20  

#20  Such a deal, made public...

Would instantly disappear down the memory hole along with all the reports of Iraq cooperating with terrorism, insane comments made by lefty favorites, and the Democrats' history on race.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-08-24 12:11  

#19  Besides, the Dems stole the idea from Karl in the '04 election. Except Kerry figgered it out, so the Bush/Saudi plan for lower prices was never implemented. Never needed, either, to re-elect W.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-08-24 12:08  

#18  PR, if you have documentation for the allegation that Democrats will/have made a deal with Chavez, that being cheap gasoline in exchange for a Democrat in 2008, I'd like to see it. Provide me with a link, etc.

Otherwise I'm pretty skeptical. Such a deal, made public (..."Dr. White, I have a Mr. K. Rove holding on line 4 ...") would skewer the Dems. Howard Dean is a nut but neither he nor the rest of the DNC is that stupid.

Documentation?
Posted by: Steve White   2005-08-24 11:37  

#17  bk,

Not so imaginative my liberal opponent. There is documented proof that Clinton sold advanced gyro technology to China for campaign contributions. BTW, you may want to use spell check, next time.

Your fellow Democrats will exploit anything for power and that's a fact.

In a way, it is imaginative, due to, that there won't be a Democratic President for a long time.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2005-08-24 11:25  

#16   Poison Reverse
very imaganative conspiracy theory?
Posted by: bk   2005-08-24 11:15  

#15  I did, I was just messin' around.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2005-08-24 11:11  

#14  evian filled.

chek em leenk. :)
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-08-24 11:06  

#13  muck,

Gas filled bikini top? Talk about exploding breasts.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2005-08-24 11:04  

#12  so bowt $2.50 to filler up wun well-enndowed bikini top seafarious?
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-08-24 10:58  

#11  Ok people, time for a lesson.

This not a off the wall statement from Chavez. Citgo Gas is a Venezuelan company. When Chavez came to power, he replaced all of the Citgo US board members with people sympathetic to him. He can deliver what he is saying. We need to take him serious, he is not a nut job.

His strategy is to create split sympathy within the US. The way the gas prices are going, there are plenty of ignorant/uninformed people that will put themselves first and their country second.

Also, Chavez's other strategy will be make a deal before the 2008 elections with Democratic Party. The plan is: The Democratic front runner will promise the American people lower gas prices. Remember, the deal all has already been cut. Chavez will dramatically increase the oil output once a Democrat President is elected, as part of the pre-determined deal. The combination of increased oil output from Chavez and releasing strategic oil revenue's from Louisiana, it would seem on the surface that the Democrats have reduced gas prices.

What's in it for Chavez, well, Chavez gets to continue his dictatorship and allow the Iranians to continue to build terrorist bases in his country.

The truth is that the Democrats will have sold this country down the river, once again, all because of their never ending lust for power.

This is why I go out of my way NOT to fill my tank with Citgo Gas.
Posted by: Poison Reverse   2005-08-24 10:32  

#10  In the old days, a lot of the oil producing countries would be able to sell gasoline much more cheaply domestically than overseas; part of this was because of the way OPEC's quotas were set up. In many of these countries, the cheap gas was being sold at cost, and in others, it was being sold at below costs. The former was formerly the case in Venezuela, but more recently the latter is the case, since Chavez has raided first PDVSA's recapitalization funds and more recently its foreign exchange funds, both of which have caused production to drop and production costs to go up.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2005-08-24 10:30  

#9  Gasoline is cheaper than mineral water in the US as well.

$2.75 for 128 ounces (one gallon) of gasoline
$1.29 for 20 ounces of Dasani water (bottled by Coca-Cola)
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-08-24 10:11  

#8  //Gasoline is cheaper than mineral water in oil-producing Venezuela, where consumers can fill their tanks for less than $2.//

thats jus brawt teersn my eyez.
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-08-24 09:56  

#7  Can I have a pony, too?
Posted by: Desert Blondie   2005-08-24 09:55  

#6  Pleave Chavez/Castro, good idea. I'd love to see how the capitalist poor in the US make a big profit reselling your handout gas and proving that commies have no grasp of economics at all.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-08-24 09:54  

#5  I know it's a bit much to ask for this in addition to your already generous offer, but how about including airfare in there so we can send the "poor" over to you?
Posted by: Dar   2005-08-24 09:47  

#4  Ok, guys. When you get your GDP per capita up with the US, we will listen to you. Until then, have a cookie and go play with your toy soldiers. Play nice or we will break 'em and put you in time out.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-08-24 09:39  

#3  Isn't this the asshole who's wrecked PDVSA's production capability over the last five years or so?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman   2005-08-24 08:34  

#2  Wow, big jim...that leaves mental images. And, I hope it costs him $15/gallon!
Posted by: BA   2005-08-24 08:26  

#1  Hugo can take his commie gas and pump it up his ass.
Posted by: bigjim-ky   2005-08-24 07:46  

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