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| 2005-08-13 | ||||
| I was hoping someone would be able to organize something like this. More than 100 supporters of President Bush held a rally Friday night across the road from the makeshift campsite of anti-war demonstrators, but authorities kept the groups separated and there was little confrontation. Makeshift camp my @ss. That makes it sound like one poor housewife, grieving for her son .... This woman is working with Democratic political operatives and the George Soros raft of political agitation groups.
At first, the 100 or so war protesters held a 40-foot banner that read "Support our troops; bring them home now!" Then they sang "God Bless America." But as Gallagher rallied his spirited, flag-waving group over a bullhorn - and the Bush supporters chanted "USA!" and "Go George go!" - the protesters put down the banner and for the most part ignored the other side. Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., who started the peace vigil, was not present during the counter-rally. She was resting at the Crawford Peace House. Robert Pinson, who served in Vietnam in the Army, said he took the three-hour bus ride to Crawford because he believes Bush is protecting the nation and that the troops are heroes. "I just wanted to show support for my country, since I served and would serve again if I could," said Pinson, 67. Before the Bush supporters boarded the bus about 30 minutes later, they placed their flags beside rows of white crosses with names of fallen U.S. soldiers. The war protesters erected the crosses, which stretch about two-tenths of a mile down the road. Sue Niederer, whose son Seth Dvorin died in Iraq last year, said she and other war protesters were glad there were no major confrontations. She said she was touched by one Bush supporter who looked at her, then asked if he could hug her. "It was a beautiful, beautiful thing," she said. "Even though he may have been a Republican, it didn't matter." There were a few tense words between the opposing sides in the beginning, as sheriff's deputies steered the Bush supporters in a sunny ditch on - appropriately enough - the right side of the road. The protesters' camp was in the shade, but authorities said the pro-Bush group shouldn't mingle with the other side. A few Bush supporters arrived on their own earlier Friday and stood at the edge of the site, initially enduring some ridicule by the war opponents. "Over the last two or three days Cindy Sheehan has been talking about how our president is a murderer and how the war is for no good reason, and I disagree with her," said Thomas F. Zapp, 52, of Richmond, whose 20-year-old son T.J. was killed in Iraq last fall. Before noon Friday, Bush's motorcade sped by the protesters en route to a fundraiser, but it didn't stop. It's unclear if Bush, riding in a black Suburban with tinted windows, looked at the demonstrators. One woman said first lady Laura Bush looked out the window at them. Sheehan held a sign that read: "Why do you make time for donors and not for me?" Because you're not a grieving mother, you're a jerk who is working with a publicist and political consultants?
Bush passed the group to and from his neighbor's ranch, where he met about 230 donors at a lunchtime barbecue that was expected to raise at least $2 million for the Republican National Committee. In the last week, dozens have joined Sheehan, 48, whose 24-year-old son Casey died in Iraq last year. From their makeshift campsite of tents and anti-war banners, they vow to remain until Bush meets with grieving parents or until his monthlong ranch visit ends. Bush has said that he sympathizes with Sheehan but did not say if he will talk to her. Bush has met with about 900 relatives of 272 U.S. soldiers who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. But Sheehan said she wants to hold the president accountable for faulty prewar intelligence that she says led to an unnecessary war. "I don't want comfort from him," Sheehan said. "I want answers. I want the truth."
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| Posted by:leader of the pack |
| #60 3 took the bait :-) thanks Hookworm Brigade. |
| Posted by: Janice 2005-08-13 09:04 |
| #59 Bush sucks.(Waiting for smartass remark from Cletus S Yokel) |
| Posted by: Janice 2005-08-13 07:12 |
| #58 " I' packs nimmer! " Colloquial for " I can't take it anymore! " " Weis der Geier was! " Who cares! " Weis der Dabel was! " again... " Who cares! " " Alle es Wurst! " Its all the same! " or " it doesn't matter! " |
| Posted by: Fun Dung Poo 2005-08-13 20:48 |
| #57 you really need help, smn, and I don't mean that in a bad way, ok? Your commenting isn't advancing any points that (I think) you may sincerely wish to advance. Take some time off, regroup, review, and come back refreshed is my best advice...worked for me |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 19:50 |
| #56 Call your John Deere Dealer! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-08-13 19:47 |
| #55 Alright Frank, then consider this; had she been a raging, rampaging Ape mom distraught over the loss of her ape sibling, what would authorities have done? That's right cornered, shot and caged her. Why hasn't measures tantamount to this (metaphorically speaking) been done yet? The blazing glaring lights of Public Opinion. I've seen it before in Tieniman Square when one lone objector stopped a multi ton tank!! Call your Senator, your Representative; have them call the local police to come a cage her(arrest),put her somewhere dark and dank so we can all sleep easier tonight. |
| Posted by: smn 2005-08-13 19:46 |
| #54 too late - every post diminishes.... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 19:40 |
| #53 Be nice Frank, SMN only wants acceptance |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-08-13 19:39 |
| #52 I did - that was my mistake... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 19:33 |
| #51 We must take SMN seriously. Really, it's the right thing to do. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-08-13 19:28 |
| #50 Not sure how valid thi was but I heard a woman claiming to be the Aunt of Casey on a radio show this week. She said that Casey joined up to get away from mommy dearest and actually reenlisted to go to Iraq. She calimed to have gone to School with the mom and she "Didn't have a conservative bone in her body." It's easy to she why the son went in another direction and where mom is today. |
| Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2005-08-13 19:18 |
| #49 ooooohhh Denounced three times before the cock |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 19:09 |
| #48 They could have done this a week ago and it still wouldn't make the MSM. Overall the more she speaks the more she shows herself to be a nut so I say let her talk away. |
| Posted by: BillH 2005-08-13 18:49 |
| #47 2b, her family is probable persuaded by the social, political or military complex! How many times will they say she's a loon...exactly three! |
| Posted by: smn 2005-08-13 18:18 |
| #46 change of drink and heart - you're not worth it - carry on! Expect evisceration at will |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 18:07 |
| #45 This just in: Mother Sheehan refuses to meet with pro-Bush protesters. Pro-Bush protesters don "Mother Sheehan, why won't you meet with me" t-shirts. |
| Posted by: Captain America 2005-08-13 18:07 |
| #44 Let me see...what was it that "J" said Frank, Oh I'm sorry...pick up that stone! |
| Posted by: smn 2005-08-13 18:06 |
| #43 Schizofreudenscreechensporkentrollenschadenfreude That does look like a German word (under the old spelling rules). |
| Posted by: Rafael 2005-08-13 18:03 |
| #42 wank, wank...I felt sorry for her at first. But then it became clear that she is only about "LOOK AT ME!!! and her son is only a tool in her LOOK AT ME toolbox. Her family has disowned her as an loon. Even if we wanted to, none of us could could say more. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-08-13 17:58 |
| #41 Steve W, definitely today's funniest post. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-08-13 17:57 |
| #40 ooooh another facet of smn! I, for one, think she should quit exalting in her media whoreness to ideals her son DID NOT DIE FOR. Is that unclear? Bring it on smn..... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 17:50 |
| #39 Off the meds again, smn? This mother is doing more than just grieving. |
| Posted by: Darrell 2005-08-13 17:49 |
| #38 .com, phil_b, and a few of you others, are circling this poor grieving mother who has lost her humanity in the tragedy of it all, like buzzards over carrion! Why don't you just present your long knives, draw and quarter her in the town square. Drink with revelry at the trophy of your understanding! |
| Posted by: smn 2005-08-13 17:47 |
| #37 Not only did Dr. Steve use German, but I'm pretty sure he used it correctly. And once again Frank and I are in agreement. :-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-13 17:33 |
| #36 tw - Well, you've put me in a box here, lol... I'll be a gentleman and defer - but certainly not my first *applause* - of that I am absolutely certain! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 17:33 |
| #35 I only speak spanish, and spanish political jokes are kinda ....redundant |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 17:30 |
| #34 .com, I'm fairly certain I would remember such language in such a context. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-13 17:28 |
| #33 ROFL!!! Not fair, you used German! Lol! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 17:27 |
| #32 no way HRC in 08....I'll put $ on it. See this |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 17:26 |
| #31 Some more entries for .com's dictionary -- Schadenfreude -- From German words damage and joy, implying taking joy at the damaging of others. Trollenschadenfreude: to actively cause the damaging of others that joy is taken in; Sporkentrollenschadenfreude: to discipline those who actively cause thedamaging of others that joy is taken in; Screechensporkentrollenschadenfreude: to whine about the discipline being meted out to those who actively cause the damaging of others that joy is taken in; Freudenscreechensporkentrollenschadenfreude: to take joy in the whining about the discipline being meted out to those who actively cause the damaging of others that joy is taken in; Schizofreudenscreechensporkentrollenschadenfreude: to be so very upset at those who take joy in the whining about the discipline being meted out to those who actively cause the damaging of others that joy is taken in that he/she/edwin pucks blood and profanity and finally splits into eight or more Schizofreudenscreechensporkentrollenschadenfreudists, each of which is also really, really angry; Sigmundfreude: to derive remuneration from the treatment of Schizofreudenscreechensporkentrollenschadenfreudists. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2005-08-13 17:25 |
| #30 tw - The first? Surely not! I don't believe it! :) ex - I miss the teethmarks you left on certain folks, lol! And I agree about Hillary in 2008. Sad, but true. Teflon can be acquired by marriage - or that may have been the initial attraction between them, lol! That and naked ambition, of course. :-) |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 17:24 |
| #29 Nice, .com. LOL! I, for one, miss the old trolls--no matter the type. (Even he who must not be mentioned! Naw, maybe that's going too far.) Not much fun for me now around here, except to view my old buddies' stuff now and then. Take care, all, and keep up the good work. Hillary's on the way and THAT'S going to totally suck. So get ready. Cheers! |
| Posted by: ex-lib 2005-08-13 17:20 |
| #28 Why, thank you, .com. Quite a compliment from a very qualified judge -- I do believe that is my very first "Holy shit!" from your keyboard. ;-) |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-13 17:18 |
| #27 Holy shit, tw! That's, um, that's, well that's a rant, if I'm not mistaken! And a damned fine one, too! *applause* |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 16:58 |
| #26 phil_b - Eek! Run away! Run away! Run away! :) Lol. We all steal from each other, liberally, and though they were unaware of it, others contributed heavily to this compilation, lol, I just tweaked and twisted things a bit to fit the project. Today I'm just kinda bored - I don't even have the energy to properly whack our prolific little retard du jour, heh. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 16:56 |
| #25 "It was a beautiful, beautiful thing," she said. "Even though he may have been a Republican, it didn't matter." Thus demonstrating the quality of her thought process, such as it is. How many of us here at Rantburg are not Republicans of any stripe, nor even Libertarians/libertarians... or for that matter not even truly Conservative or Neocon? Not to mention that something like a quarter of the troops "out there" identify as Democrats. If those people weren't living in their makeshift tent city, they'd be protesting the whales, or the cutting down of trees, or which ever cause crossed in front of their eyes at a moment their brain cells managed to fire sequentially. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2005-08-13 16:47 |
| #24 "I don't want comfort from him," Sheehan said. "I want answers. I want the truth." You can't handle the truth! |
| Posted by: DMFD 2005-08-13 16:34 |
| #23 .com, Man I swear I could compile a best selling book out of the stuff you post here. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-08-13 16:31 |
| #22 Sheesh - should've spell-checked it before posting - I just grabbed it and slapped an intro on it. Apologies for the obvious glaring (*slaps forehead*) errors. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 15:02 |
| #21 Well, there ya go, CA - you've pointed out one reason why I gave it up, lol! "Capitrol? So many variants, so little time. You can have it, bro - just try to be fair and judicious in the taxonomy, heh. Variants on "troll" are preferred, of course. ;-) |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 14:57 |
| #20 Com Thank you for this definitive troll classification system. Is there also a category for CAPITALTROLL, one who simplistically thinks using all caps somehow makes a point, albeit not the one they had hoped for. |
| Posted by: Captain America 2005-08-13 14:45 |
| #19 To liven things up a tad, I once began a Troll Dictionary, TrollDix, heh), but gave up as they proliferated faster than I cared to maintain the document. I haven't updated it in about 18 months. I offer it for your amusement - or feel free to edit and pick up future maintenance, lol. 1) Zerolls - truly (and occasionally willfully) ignorant, dysfunctional, classic twits; typical Moonbat toolfool 2) Baitrolls - pretends to be Zerolls to distract and obfuscate any real discussion; includes the Cambridge / Oxford pooftas and ponces 3) Appeacers - antiwar at any cost;"Not just anti-war, they're on the other side." 4) Onatrolls - ..A) self-absorbed megalomaniacal fools who post disingenuous ejaculate to impress themselves with their command of the Word Tools (Dictionary, Thesaurus, Grammar and Spell Checker) ..B) posts are seldom relevant to the topic, they're usually about themselves or whomever they are attempting to bait or trash - and attempt to build themselves up by ad hominem or faux-logic attacks on others 5) Trolljans - ..A) overtly apparently rational and reasonable, they post anti-jihadi spew, laud military, only mildy openly criticize policy and try to make that seem on-topic ..B) on the inside, when their guard drops, you find remarkably disingenuous and irrational spew; Oreo: cookies with a bile-cream center 6) Trone - droning, hari-splitting, uber-reasonable, implacable, sometimes pointless / often mindlessly centrist; defenders of the institutions obviously subverted by Moonbats 7) Turdtroll - hit and run screecher who deposts little turds – sometimes pointless drivel, sometimes LLL / DU Talking Points; Trail of Turds 8) HateTroll - ..A) simple abusive ad hominem attacker ..B) no attempt to address topic 9) ICanTypeMoreShitThanAnyoneElseAlive(ICTMSTAEA) - argumentative in the extreme, overwhelms with volume - usually large tracts of gibberish lifted from DU-style sites, logic optional 10) ConversationOfOne - ICTMSTAEA who regularly answers himself 11) Muslimozoid - non-jihadist Muslim apologist / practitioner, a True Believer with full djin dysfunction 12) Izzoid - militant jihadi Muslimozoid TrollRoll... Examples of each type... {deleted, lol} |
| Posted by: .com 2005-08-13 14:35 |
| #18 Yeah, the good old days of Murat, Gentle and Antiwar. God rest their unhappy souls. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2005-08-13 14:06 |
| #17 Man, the quality of trolls at RB has really gone downhill lately. Used to be we got wit and intelligence or at least phosporescent bile from our trolls. Now it's just schoolyard namecalling. No wonder the left is in such trouble. |
| Posted by: too true 2005-08-13 14:02 |
| #16 The "Crawford Peace House" is an heir to Father Coughlin. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2005-08-13 13:43 |
| #15 Took the bait? I had hoped you would have taken it for contemptuous dismissal. I apologize for being too nuanced. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2005-08-13 13:41 |
| #14 I've commented off and on the last couple of years. Just been too busy to comment much the last few months. No problem though, I'll be lower-case wcr. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2005-08-13 13:37 |
| #13 "And how come the MSM never thinks to ask that question?" Maybe for the same reason they take pains to avoid pointing out that Bush hasn't made any claims about Iraq's WMD that were significantly different from those already made by Clinton: because they're paid propagandists for the Democratic Party-- and trying to make a Republican president look bad is far more important than being truthful. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2005-08-13 12:38 |
| #12 But Sheehan said she wants to hold the president accountable for faulty prewar intelligence that she says led to an unnecessary war. If the prewar intelligence was faulty (and some most likely was, but not all IMO) the person who could of completely altered the course of the whole Iraq problem was Saddam himself. If he knew he didn't have any chemical or biological waeapons why was he stonewalling Blixie so much. What did he have to gain other than thinking France and Germany were going to stall Bush and Blair long enough to prevent an invasion. And how come the MSM never thinks to ask that question? |
| Posted by: Cheaderhead 2005-08-13 12:16 |
| #11 WCR: Note the slightly different capitalization and the added space. |
| Posted by: Jackal 2005-08-13 12:14 |
| #10 Janice sucks |
| Posted by: Cletus S Yokel 2005-08-13 12:13 |
| #9 Uh-oh! Are there two WhiteCollarRednecks on this board? I didn't make that last comment. |
| Posted by: WhiteCollarRedneck 2005-08-13 10:37 |
| #8 She needs to rest? Aside from her doing interviews, what else is she doing down there, training for the NYC Marathon? It's tiring work dragging down your country, self-promoting, and despoiling everything your son died for while selling your worthless soul to Soros and crew |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-08-13 10:22 |
| #7 She (Sheehan) was resting at the Crawford Peace House. She needs to rest? Aside from her doing interviews, what else is she doing down there, training for the NYC Marathon? |
| Posted by: Raj 2005-08-13 10:13 |
| #6 On Friday, she released a 60-second television ad running on cable channels in the Crawford area the rest of the month. The $15,000 cost was paid for by Gold Star Families, a group Sheehan co-founded This is why the media gets no respect these days. Sheehan co-founded the group. Who founded it? Who gave them $15,000? |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-08-13 09:15 |
| #5 3 took the bait :-) thanks Hookworm Brigade. |
| Posted by: Janice 2005-08-13 09:04 |
| #4 This counter protest is important, but it's coming too late. Sheehan and her buddies have hogged the TV news for a week, including overseas. The other voices won't be heard. We need to start making our voices heard immediately when the LLL pulls this sort of stunt. |
| Posted by: faster please 2005-08-13 08:24 |
| #3 Yawn |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2005-08-13 07:44 |
| #2 I think you need a little more detail and backup before that comment will be taken seriously here. |
| Posted by: true nuff 2005-08-13 07:35 |
| #1 Bush sucks.(Waiting for smartass remark from Cletus S Yokel) |
| Posted by: Janice 2005-08-13 07:12 |