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| 600-Year-old Warship Found In East China |
| 2005-08-12 |
| BEIJING, Aug 12 (Bernama) -- Archaeologists have recently found a well-preserved ancient warship dated back to some 600 years ago, at a relics site in the ancient Dengzhou Harbor in Penglai, east China's Shandong Province. The Xinhua news agency reported that this is the first discovery of a large ancient ship in China in over two decades. The wooden ancient vessel, more than 20 meters long, is believed to be a warship from the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368), said You Shaoping, director of the Shandong Cultural Heritage Bureau, on Thursday. The value of the ancient warship is yet to be determined by experts, said You, adding that it is similar to another ancient ship excavated not far away from the site about 20 years ago, but better preserved than that one. In 1984, a warship of Yuan Dynasty was found in Penglai, and the ancient ship was the largest and best preserved ancient ship in China at that time...28 meters long, 5.6 meters wide, and 1.2 meters high. The streamline warship was designed for fast navigation, said experts. During the excavation of the ship some 20 years ago, a second ancient ship was found. But archaeologists buried it up again because half of the ship was covered by a local home. Local government conducted a desilting project at the ancient harbor site this year. As residents of the site were relocated, archaeologists began to excavate the buried ship. To their surprise, the third, better preserved ship was discovered. Experts said Chinese navigation in the Yuan and Ming (1368-1644) dynasties was relatively developed. The ancient Dengzhou harbor had been an important military harbor in north China 1,000 years ago... |
| Posted by:Pappy |
| #10 Careful, now, or you won't get any more pickles. Glad you like them. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-08-12 21:36 |
| #9 Trying to get my mind around the concept of Auburn and physics.... :) By the way DB the dills are awesome. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-08-12 20:02 |
| #8 Wow, that would be really something! a ship from the time period of the Mongol Invasion! |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-08-12 17:05 |
| #7 Yuan is the Mongol Occupation. Wonder if this is one of the constructions for either of the two invasion fleets that were sent to Japan. |
| Posted by: Glolurt Spomolet6046 2005-08-12 10:10 |
| #6 Good points, DB, and I didn't assume you mean just Civil War sites. Funny story I have at that very McDonald's you talk about. One day a buddy and I were crossing Magnolia to go to class (we parked behind the McDonald's in a dirt lot to keep from paying on campus..plus it was right across the street from our Engineering building). Anyways, we were waiting for traffic to clear, when we saw these 2 girls in a car look at us, smile and then start laughing. Driver was looking so hard that she ran into the back of the car in front of her (who slowed down to turn into McD's), RIGHT in front of us. I was all worried, wanted to help these ladies out, and my buddy turned to me and said "I hate it when that happens." I just burst out laughing (especially knowing they were checking out 2 nerdy future engineers) and we just crossed to go to class. |
| Posted by: BA 2005-08-12 09:40 |
| #5 Ba, I singled out Civil War Battlefields because they have been in some of the news lately but they are by no means the only historic sites endangered. Waaaaay back in the mid '70s when I was at Auburn University Magnolia Avenue was almost all residential on one side as the University takes up the other side. When Mcdonalds wanted to build a restaurant on Magnolia they got the city to condem two of the houses, they wanted a third but it is listed on the National Register of Historic Sites. It was the home of an Auburn Physicist who was a very important part of the discoveries in physics in the 1920's and 30s. I can't remember his name, dammit, but my point is there was a big outcry about allowing a McDonalds into a residential area and that if the house had not been on the Register it would have been destroyed. The city Council ignored the public wishes and rezoned the land and condemed it anyway. In light of the Kelo decision I believe we will lose a lot more of our historical heretige. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-08-12 09:27 |
| #4 DB: That's just another "sign and portent" of what I'm beginning to believe will be a 2nd Civil War here in the States. If these solutions don't come about through elections (and, thus, judicial nominees who read the Constitution as it's written, not as they would've written it), it may very well come to another war. I, for one, was born and raised here in the South, tried to deny my "Southern-ness" (i.e. redneck-ness) for a long time before I've truly come to believe there are many traits we should admire here. I've never set foot on a Civil War battlefield, and, personally, think those guys are sometimes overboard...BUT, they take this seriously. Of course, many of the developers around here are "good ole' boyz" too, so I imagine it may be a while before they try to get the local gov't to condemn the properties in question (Civil War battlefields, etc.). |
| Posted by: BA 2005-08-12 07:56 |
| #3 This brings up an interesting and, to me, alarming facet of the Supreme Court Kelo decision. There have been several court cases over the years pitting developers against Civil War Battlefield preservationists. I gues with the Kelo decision the developers can now get the local governments to condem any property in question regardless of the historic significance purely for the purpose of increased tax revenue. I'm not a rabid preservationist but some sites that are endangered need to be preserved. It will be very interesting to see how any preservation case plays out. IMHO, it looks like the preservationists will lose. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-08-12 07:39 |
| #2 Hopefully, the lot will be added to, in the future! |
| Posted by: smn 2005-08-12 02:56 |
| #1 During the excavation of the ship some 20 years ago, a second ancient ship was found. But archaeologists buried it up again because half of the ship was covered by a local home. It's a sad day when China has more respect for private property than the United States Supreme Court does. |
| Posted by: Chris W. 2005-08-12 01:41 |