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Britain
Hizb-ut-Tahrir threatens Blair
2005-08-05
British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s pledge to ban militant Islamic groups will be seen by Muslims as “stifling legitimate political dissent”, a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir said today. Imran Waheed, a spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain, said the group would fight any ban through the courts and insisted it was a “non-violent political party”.
I think it's pretty well established that it's an al-Qaeda front organization.
He added: “There will be serious repercussions in terms of community relations if this ban goes ahead. We have a lot of support among the Muslim community in Britain and it will be seen by the Muslim community as stifling legitimate political dissent.
Sounds like a threat to turn Britain into something like Karachi on a hot day...
“Hizb ut-Tahrir is a non-violent political party. It has had a history of non-violence for the last 50 years and these measures are like what we have seen in Uzbekistan where President Karimov has been burning his political opponents alive. Our members are all for political expression, not for violence.”
Hizbut's members also all call for the establishment of a caliphate to rule an Islamic world. They take the phrase "over my dead body" literally and look forward to it with anticpation.
Mr Waheed said the group had made its position on the London bombings clear - that it was “not justified to take innocent lives”.
"But since they're already dead, we should just move on. There's certainly no reason to actually do something about it."
“We have been very clear about that and we will fight any ban through the legal system. We will continue our work. Our work is totally non-violent.” But he added: “Our views are very similar to those in the Muslim community. We want an end to Western interference in Muslim countries.”
In that case, you'll have nothing against those Muslim communities being moved to Karachi and left to their own devices...
Mr Waheed rejected shadow defence minister Gerald Howarth’s comments that Muslims opposed to the British way of life should leave the country even if they are UK citizens. “This is nothing to do with not liking the country,” he said. “We were born in Britain and there is nothing precluding a Muslim from a being a decent citizen in this country. By doing this, he (Mr Blair) is setting an example to the tyrant rulers of the Muslim world, encouraging them to further suppress their populations.”
There's nothing precluding a Muslim being a decent citizen of Britain. That doesn't explain why those who aren't decent citizens shouldn't be dumped...
The Hizb ut-Tahrir website says the group’s aim is to “resume the Islamic way of life and to convey the Islamic da’wah (teachings) to the world”. A statement posted following the G8 summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, last month said the “colonialists, especially America and Britain, harbour a hidden hatred against Islam and the Muslims".
We just hide it really well, since we as nations go out of our way not to offend the sensitive little beasties...
It continued: “They forget their differences when it comes to Islam and the Muslims. The London explosions, which took place at the time of the G8 summit, revealed this crusader viewpoint and hatred of Islam and the Muslims to the extent that every Muslim in Britain, even British citizens, have come under suspicion where even some British organisations have begun calling openly for ‘waging a crusader war to expel Muslims from the streets of Europe’.
Only those who've declared war against the host country. I use the term "host country" descriptively, to describe a nation that's afflicted with destructive parasites. Parasites, in fact, like Hizb ut-Tahrir...
“You can see these states, especially the colonialist states and those which have ambitions over our countries, may disagree on everything but they are united against you and against your Deen (faith).” The site has several question and answer-style pages arguing that America is trying to create an “evil empire which will control the whole world”.
That's why we've imposed a tax on the countries we've liberated, right? That's why we've removed their treasure to our own countries. That's why we've slaughtered their military age males in batches... Oh. Wait. That's what Muslims would do. That's what Saddam did, in fact.
Other statements read: “Western capitalism is a shameful and licentious civilisation for which there is no precedent known in history. Abnormal behaviour, mutilation and nudity can be found amongst human beings.”
If you don't like it, don't indulge. If you don't like being around it, go back to Karachi. The difference between Western civilization and Islamism is that we in the West have over the course of the years tamed our impulses somewhat to tell other people how to live their lives.
The common link between Al Muhajiroun and Hizb ut-Tahir is Sheikh Omar bin Bakri bin Mohammed. Bakri Mohammed has been investigated by police over his allegedly inflammatory language, but no charges have ever been brought.
We'll believe the Brits have actually caught on when he's booted...
After living in Syria and Lebanon, he was expelled from Saudi Arabia as an extremist and arrived in Britain in 1986. He set up a branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation), which recruited from mosques and colleges. He split from the group in 1996 and created Al-Muhajiroun (The Eyes and Ears of the Muslims), which praised the “Magnificent 19” hijackers after September 11. Last October, Bakri Mohammed announced he was disbanding Al-Muhajiroun in the interests of unity in the Muslim world, and has since adopted a lower profile.
Which means he's working behind the scenese and thinking of going underground if he thinks Tony's serious this time. Tony faces the choice to be Churchill or Musharraf...
However, he is now head of one of the “successor organisations” referred to by Mr Blair today – the Saviour Sect (Ahl ul-Sunnah wal Jammah), which disrupted a Muslim Council of Britain press conference in April.
I think he sees this as a British equivalent of Jamaat-e-Islami...
A group of chanting militants stormed the meeting, condemning the Council as “a mouthpiece” of Mr Blair’s and claiming that voting in the General Election would go against Islam. There were chaotic scenes as a group of more than a dozen men, two of them masked, broke down the door of the library in the Central London Mosque in Regent’s Park. The men who burst in said they represented the Saviour Sect, from the disbanded Al Muhajiroun group and headed by cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. They also targeted election candidates George Galloway and Oona King in violent scuffles during hustings in London’s East End in April.
Sounds a lot like the Islami Jamiat Talaba and the festivities at Punjab University, doesn't it?
Another Al-Muhajiroun offshoot is known as Al Ghurabaa, or “The Strangers”. This week, Al Ghurabaa spokesman Abu Izzadeen refused to condemn the July 7 bombings and said he hoped they would make people “wake up and smell the coffee”.
We're all hoping exactly the same thing, bub.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#8  The London explosions, which took place at the time of the G8 summit, revealed this crusader viewpoint and hatred of Islam and the Muslims to the extent that every Muslim in Britain, even British citizens, have come under suspicion where even some British organisations have begun calling openly for ‘waging a crusader war to expel Muslims from the streets of Europe’.

You want a Crusader viewpoint? How about "Kill them all and let God sort them out"? Does the word "cauterization" make you lose any sleep?

Diluting the term "crusader" really isn't in your best interest, genius.
Posted by: Glock Groluper3752   2005-08-05 20:10  

#7  Hopefully this new law means they can be deported back to wherever they came from..Lets see how opinionated they are in their own shithole....
Posted by: Kent Mccord   2005-08-05 14:23  

#6  It looks like Bush and Blair are playing rope-a-dope with these people, giving them enough rope to hang themselves.
Posted by: john   2005-08-05 14:20  

#5  It's not a double standard, he just considers Britain a Muslim country.
Posted by: BH   2005-08-05 12:49  

#4  My thought exactly, tu!
Posted by: BA   2005-08-05 12:45  

#3  This week, Al Ghurabaa spokesman Abu Izzadeen refused to condemn the July 7 bombings and said he hoped they would make people “wake up and smell the coffee”.

Be careful what you wish for...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-08-05 12:22  

#2  But he added: “Our views are very similar to those in the Muslim community. We want an end to Western interference in Muslim countries.”
And yet he attempts to interfere in a non Muslim country. No double standard at all.
Posted by: plainslow   2005-08-05 12:12  

#1  Slipspeak soft death fatwa? As a front group on the more accessible end (worse than mere apologist though) of the scale the words can't be issued as bluntly and with the same sort of calls to violence that the more hardcore mouthpieces can. "Nonviolent" is a term of art with these folks. They have nothing to offer a civilized, democratic and tolerant society do they.
Posted by: MunkarKat   2005-08-05 12:02  

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