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Michael Yon: Empty Jars
2005-07-27
Go to the paragraph just past the 'Cascades' header, and there's a lovely Iraqi version of an unfortunate 'crossfire' incident.
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#15  Bobby, for many years the USMC was the prefered service of Princeton, See my main man Geiger Roy,
Posted by: Shipman   2005-07-27 18:24  

#14  That's the book, and two of the money quotes.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-27 16:47  

#13  There was an excerpt from the book (or maybe it was a precursor to the book) in the WSJ back in '02--the Rantburg posting is here.
Posted by: Mike   2005-07-27 15:22  

#12  The name of the book was - Keeping Faith: A Father-Son Story About Love and the United States Marine Corps.

I recommend it, the better to understand the other liberal point of view, of course.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-27 13:53  

#11  A couple of years ago, I read a book by a NE liberal author, whose son had decided to join the Marines. My youngest was in the same boat at that time.

All their prep-school friends' parents were shocked the kid wasn't going off to Harvard, and seemed to have the attitude that military service was for hillbilly murderers who joined the military because it was the only job they could find. (Pun intended, since that would include, it seems, Hilly and Billy, too.) The author also apparently felt that way, until his son joined up, and once he got over the shock, he quickly developed a new respect for the military! {Something about Father and Son, written by Frank Schaeffer, I think.}

An article in Smithsonian mag related how a young idealist baseball player joined up in WWI, along with all the liberal, elite college kids in Harvard and Yale, to fight the "war to end all wars". It turned out to be disillusioning, since it was pretty much a meat-grinder. It was even worse for the French, who lost a significant portion of their younger generation. It appears the experience, and subsequently, Viet Nam, was sufficient to sour both groups on the military.

If you don't want to serve, it's much easier to rationalize if those who do all somehow less human than you. You know, like how the Dems figgered 52% of the voters were too stupid to vote for Kerry?
Posted by: Bobby   2005-07-27 13:41  

#10  .com, I could not agree with you more about Michael Yon. He tells it like it is, warts and all. He also tells the story of what our soldiers and the Iraqi civilians are going through on a daily basis. It is amazing to me that the huge munitions cache that they found in Mosul was not even mentioned in the MSM. Yon respects the soldiers and what they do. He does not automatically think that they are lying hillbilly murderers who joined the military because it was the only job they could find. That IS the attitude of many of the rest of the MSM. That is part of why they can't report just the facts. And it is part of the reason why I would like to put a toilet seat on their face and crap down their throat.

I feel better now.
Posted by: remoteman   2005-07-27 13:13  

#9  .com, no offence taken. (my fault, as may typing is very slow, I tend to make short sentences. My 2 fingers are a bit like a Predator flying over the keyboard looking for the right target to strike!)

Actually, all I wanted to say is that he does a better job then embedded reporters I have read or heard. He's been on my bookmarks for a few weeks as well.
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-07-27 13:05  

#8  Grins Sluper5274, to post an article, go to the top of the Rantburg page, click on Post your own article, and simple copy/paste into the labelled spaces. Make sure you put the article's url in the Source space, and edit out extra verbiage, to save Fred's wavelength for the all-important commentary. ;-)

I am able to do this, so I've no doubt you'll have no trouble.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-07-27 11:28  

#7  GS - go the front pg - pick post an article, fill out the form. It's not hard, even I can do it. I looked at Rooters, but didn't see it, please post it
Frank
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-27 10:58  

#6  Michael Yon's easily the best no-shit reporter and true journalist in Iraq. I don't recall who posted the first story from his site - maybe 4 months ago - but I want to thank them again. Sincerely. His writing and photos are honest real-time reporting of the first order. You can help with a PayPal tip, too - he's doing this without the expense account of the MSM jihadi-symp lardasses in the Green Zone hotel bars.

BTW, ST, I need to pick a bone here and your comment brought it to mind... don't take offense.

I do not accept that he's biased due to being embedded - I've been reading him for months, now. What he is is honest. That lie is MSM-speak for reporters who refused to follow the anti-US / anti-Military agenda ("Where's the dirt?") and reported the facts as they were witnessed. A reporter doesn't need to be a congenital asshole - he's supposed to report what he sees and discovers. Yon does that in spades. I refuse to let the MSM asswipes of today redefine reporting on their terms. Fuck Them. Yon's the man and they're utter shit. :-)
Posted by: .com   2005-07-27 10:53  

#5  Frank I don't know how to post articles here ....but you might want to check out a article on Reuters.....the Iraqis have nabbed an aide to Ayman al- Zawahiri in IRAQ.
Posted by: Grins Sluper5274   2005-07-27 10:39  

#4  huh? Wonder if Mosul knows they're going to be stormed? Mikey and JU do...
Posted by: Frank G   2005-07-27 10:27  

#3  It's a shame this sort of reporting just doesn't make the msm. People should know.
Posted by: MunkarKat   2005-07-27 09:55  

#2  Right, phil_b, that's what you would expect from an embedded reporter but, unfortunately...
Posted by: SwissTex   2005-07-27 08:22  

#1  Highly recommended as a truthful antidote to the MSM's meme driven drivel.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-07-27 07:50  

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