Mohamed el-Amir
As I said... Look into the face of evil....
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| Atta's father praises London bombs |
| 2005-07-20 |
| The father of one of the hijackers who commandeered the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, praised the recent terror attacks in London and said many more would follow. Speaking to CNN producer Ayman Mohyeldin Tuesday in his apartment in the upper-middle-class Cairo suburb of Giza, Mohamed el-Amir said he would like to see more attacks like the July 7 bombings of three London subway trains and a bus that killed 52 people, plus the four bombers. Displayed prominently in the apartment were pictures of el-Amir's son, Mohamed Atta, the man who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Center as part of the attacks on the United States. El-Amir said the attacks in the United States and the July 7 attacks in London were the beginning of what would be a 50-year religious war, in which there would be many more fighters like his son. He declared that terror cells around the world were a "nuclear bomb that has now been activated and is ticking." The man, who gave his age as "at least 70," said he had no sorrow for what happened in London, and said there was a double standard in the way the world viewed the victims in London and victims in the Islamic world. Cursing in Arabic, el-Amir also denounced Arab leaders and Muslims who condemned the London attacks as being traitors and non-Muslims. He passionately vowed that he would do anything within his power to encourage more attacks. When asked if he would allow a CNN crew to videotape another interview with him, el-Amir said he would give his permission -- for a price of $5,000. That money, he said, would not be kept for himself, but would be donated to someone to carry out another terror attack. El-Amir said that $5,000 was about how much it would cost to finance another attack in London. CNN's crew refused to pay for the interview and left after el-Amir's request. It is CNN policy not to pay people for interviews. A lawyer by trade, el-Amir had a sign on his apartment door saying he was a consultant. The security guard for the apartment building said el-Amir had been under surveillance by Egyptian agents for several months after the September 11 attacks, but no one had been watching him recently. |
| Posted by:ed |
| #25 Sounds like he sure the heck believes in "Moderate Islam," even if he calls it blasphemy. |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-07-20 23:32 |
| #24 More on Bakri's new website: The site carried a picture of the wreckage of the No 30 bus in Tavistock Square and condemned the fatwa against suicide bombs signed by 500 imams as âclear blasphemy against Islamâ. Blasphemy entails death punishment under Islamic Law. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 22:42 |
| #23 I just checked. It seems I counted the same TV show twice, and the title is "Terrorism in the Grip of Justice," not "Terrorists in the Grip of Justice." So Iraq, which has lots of Moslems, is the good news. (The bad news, IMHO, are guys like Red Ken, and the PIRA and FARC guys who seem to have found common cause with Zarqawi, despite not being Moslem.) And Pakistan didn't get its nuclear bomb technology from a Moslem nation. |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-07-20 22:39 |
| #22 I like what I've hard about these two Iraqi TV shows. What about Moslems in the West? what do the "moderates" among them say and do in public? BTW I am not assuming that Islamofascists are true to Islam. I'm listening to them, I've read the Koran, and I watch as nobody ever makes an argument based on the Koran against them. Lots of hand-waving, yes. But no argument based on reason, their tradition, or their scripture. None. The moderate Moslem? It's been an illusion, so far. How much longer shall we hope? |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 22:37 |
#21
You're assuming that the people shooting at us are right and correct in their interpretation of Moslem tradition, and that those Moslems who the people shooting at us are also killing in much larger number than they are our troops are de facto wrong in their interpretation of the Koran. I think this is probably a Bad Idea and unuseful to boot. People like Zarqawi understand that there's an ideological struggle within Islam; that's why they spend so much time blowing other Moslems up, and characterizing their victims as not really being Moslem at all. You're spreading their propaganda.
Well, there's an entire TV show dedicated to the exploits of the Wolf Battallion. There's also "Terrorists in the Grip of Justice," which probably isn't what you're looking for, but doesn't really sound to me like it's made by someone who sympathizes with Zarqawi and Bin Laden and their ilk. | ||
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-07-20 22:31 |
| #20 Radical cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed warned today (London Times) on a new website that the July 7 bombings âare not the first and will not be the lastâ. His site blames the Government, the British people and moderate Muslims for the atrocities. NOW where are the "moderate" Moslems who will loudly denounce him, and then demand that he be tried and jailed, or executed? where? All surveys across the Moslem world show massive support for Bin Laden. Why is that? is he a "moderate"? |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 22:29 |
| #19 To hark back to my earliest impresson after 9/11... The entire family of anyone involved in that and subsequent attacks should be exterminated. Harsh, but maybe it would get the message across. |
| Posted by: DanNY 2005-07-20 22:16 |
| #18 TGA, I wish you were right. IF YOU ARE RIGHT, then please show me the massive numbers of "moderate" Moslems who denounce and hunt down the "extremists" in their midst. I sure don't see that. And my current hypothesis is that these mythical "moderates" are hostage to the immoderate nature of Islam. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 22:07 |
| #17 Sorry Kalle, but PF is right. Muslims come in all shades, like Christians. We can agree on the problematic nature of Islam as such but a large majority of Muslims are not jihadis, are peaceful and just want a career and a family life like we all do. A lot are certainly in denial of the true nature of Islam, but they don't live in the 7th century. There would have been no point in liberating Iraq if we thought that all were alike. |
| Posted by: True German Ally 2005-07-20 21:39 |
| #16 As for the Iraqis who are killed by the terrorists, you should pay attention to their words: they justify their action by stating that the dead were apostates. Al-Zarqawi thinks all Shiites are apostates. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 21:29 |
| #15 What's your point, PF? Kids may go to mosque, church, temple or the river -- that doesn't make them authorities on the meaning and purpose of a given religion. According to Moslem scripture and tradition, there is no such thing as a moderate Moslem -- it's taqiya, jihad, and sharia for everybody, as well as death to all apostates! They even have an apostasy rule for kids: throw them in jail until they're 18, then ask them if they will submit to the moon-god, else kill them. |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 21:26 |
| #14 So, if this guy is in the phonebook I'd be happy to pay him a short visit next time I'm in Cairo. EP |
| Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-07-20 18:49 |
#13
Well, then how does one classify the civilians in Iraq who are killed in various suicide bombings and other terrorist action every week? Are you going to say that they're the "bad" moslems? I don't think anyone here can say that the kids blown up in the bombing last week didn't say their prayers every day and trudge off to Sunday, er, Friday School (or whatever the equivalent is) every weekend. Saying those particular deaths don't matter, or count, puts one in the same belief system as the previously mentioned mullah who thinks the whole situation is crusaders vs. moslems. Or the stalinist mayors in the West who ignore the Iraqi civilian deaths at the hands of the terrorists as well. | |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-07-20 18:30 |
| #12 Me thinks the fruit does not fall too far from the tree. |
| Posted by: John Q. Citizen 2005-07-20 17:21 |
| #11 "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" Matthew 7:16 |
| Posted by: Secret Master 2005-07-20 15:32 |
| #10 I thought he claimed his son wasn't in on the plot and if he was in on the plot he was a dupe of the MOSSAD because no muzzie man would do such a terrible thing act, even though it was a good thing. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2005-07-20 15:10 |
| #9 This is the guy who claimed his son was a patsy and wasn't invovled in 9/11. What a tool. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2005-07-20 14:42 |
| #8 Look my son the martyr I am so proud of him...he is with the 74 virgins and I am planning on joining him soon....Nobber how wrong you are |
| Posted by: Nockeyes Nilberforce 2005-07-20 14:42 |
| #7 Mohamed el-Amir As I said... Look into the face of evil.... |
| Posted by: BigEd 2005-07-20 14:03 |
| #6 Mohammed Sr is merely repeating what he hears at the mosque every Friday. What he reads in the local newspaper every day. There is no such thing as a moderate Moslem. Either one is a Moslem, or one is not. There is no middle ground. According to Islamic Law, moderation is a form of apostasy, punished by death according to the example set by Mohammed-the-pedophile. (I've posted an article earlier today, linking to statements of a UK-based Islamofascist who makes that exact point.) |
| Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-20 12:44 |
| #5 Atta's daddy-boy pimp will always be full of grief... I wouldn't expect him to ever spout anything resembling logic or responsible parenting much-less responsible behavior. He was showered will affection, respect, attention and material gifts after his boy-pimp got drugged and drunk-up to prepare his way to sit and play cards with Satan in the after-life. |
| Posted by: Snemp Glaique9693 2005-07-20 12:34 |
| #4 The question is how representative is he of the "average" muslim? What is the percentage of muslims that feel this way really? Does the percentage vary by region? I think these are the real questions we have to get answers to in order to understand what we are facing. My gut says the is a bit wackier than most, but not much. I just want some sort of evidence of that. |
| Posted by: remoteman 2005-07-20 12:31 |
| #3 This guy should have an accident. |
| Posted by: Neutron Tom 2005-07-20 12:27 |
| #2 I believe the correct term is, "mobile self demolition experts", splodeydopes is old hat, although I still prefer splodeydopes. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2005-07-20 12:22 |
| #1 Well, looks like the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Something to keep in mind next time some splodeydope's parent is interviewed post-atrocity and claims their kid was a "decent sort driven to extremes by the opressive West" or some other such BS. |
| Posted by: docob 2005-07-20 12:02 |